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[Jim Burrill]

"Sorry for the delay in posting this...

I did a hot water wash and hot dryer run on the sample suit.

Like I suspected, there is shrinkage, like with bluejeans.

I measured several points, like the sleeve length, inseam, crotch to waist, shoulder to shoulder. Collar.

Worse shrinkage was in the length of 2" in the inseam. collar had no shrinkage and the sleeve length was about 1.5".

I discussed it with Irfan. He asked me to do a good iron and measure, which I did with no noticeable change.

The solution we worked out is in two parts - Irfan is recalculating the patterns to add more fabric to the pattern pieces so when you get it, it should fit looser than you expect, and after a good hot wash and hot dryer, it comes down to the size that is on the label.

You the buyer, will plan on the shrinkage in the first hot wash. Subsequent washing should be cold and probably close-line dry.

Next sizing thing is the inseam.... we have to keep it simple on the inseam because each single chest and waist could have 4-5 different inseam lengths.

If you think yourself on the tall side, ask for a Tall for your size. Irfan will send a suit that is about 2" longer int he inseam for the same chest and waist.

Some people may find they have a good general fit, but the legs are too long. In that case a local dry cleaner or tailor shop can take up the pants cuff and restitch the tab and buttons.

I just drafted a new size chart for the order form and I am sending it to Irfan now to review and confirm.

Personally, I am ordering a size 5/XL

I am 5"11. chest is 42-44 and a waist of 38". However age and occupation and a general loathing for gym workouts has me a bit larger around the belly button than I am at my belt-line. SO the XL should give me ease over summer clothes.

Irfan sent me a Large and over t-shirt and jeans it was "Snug" across the belly but the other areas fit closely. So I would order next size up.

Trying to sort out the fake size labels is a challenge. An Army Size 4 for one garment will not fit a soldier like any other Size 4 for a different garment.

You would think on induction, a soldier would be measured and told " Remember this! You are a Size 5! always ask for a size 5 from the quartermaster for everything!"

I swear, I could make a doctoral thesis on clothing sizes in WW2!

[Eric R.]

So the sizing based on modern dickey coveralls is not how it is going to be sized? That is what I thought you had originally planned on? That is a shame since I can go about anywhere and make sure the size fits.

After the size screw up I had with the bespoke pixie suit I am leery of his sizing applications.

Originally Posted by Jim Burrill

"Sorry for the delay in posting this...

I did a hot water wash and hot dryer run on the sample suit.

Like I suspected, there is shrinkage, like with bluejeans.

I measured several points, like the sleeve length, inseam, crotch to waist, shoulder to shoulder. Collar.

Worse shrinkage was in the length of 2" in the inseam. collar had no shrinkage and the sleeve length was about 1.5".

I discussed it with Irfan. He asked me to do a good iron and measure, which I did with no noticeable change.

The solution we worked out is in two parts - Irfan is recalculating the patterns to add more fabric to the pattern pieces so when you get it, it should fit looser than you expect, and after a good hot wash and hot dryer, it comes down to the size that is on the label.

You the buyer, will plan on the shrinkage in the first hot wash. Subsequent washing should be cold and probably close-line dry.

Next sizing thing is the inseam.... we have to keep it simple on the inseam because each single chest and waist could have 4-5 different inseam lengths.

If you think yourself on the tall side, ask for a Tall for your size. Irfan will send a suit that is about 2" longer int he inseam for the same chest and waist.

Some people may find they have a good general fit, but the legs are too long. In that case a local dry cleaner or tailor shop can take up the pants cuff and restitch the tab and buttons.

I just drafted a new size chart for the order form and I am sending it to Irfan now to review and confirm.

Personally, I am ordering a size 5/XL

I am 5"11. chest is 42-44 and a waist of 38". However age and occupation and a general loathing for gym workouts has me a bit larger around the belly button than I am at my belt-line. SO the XL should give me ease over summer clothes.

Irfan sent me a Large and over t-shirt and jeans it was "Snug" across the belly but the other areas fit closely. So I would order next size up.

Trying to sort out the fake size labels is a challenge. An Army Size 4 for one garment will not fit a soldier like any other Size 4 for a different garment.

You would think on induction, a soldier would be measured and told " Remember this! You are a Size 5! always ask for a size 5 from the quartermaster for everything!"

I swear, I could make a doctoral thesis on clothing sizes in WW2!

[Jim Burrill]

I have gone back to him about that. That is why I haven't published a fresh order form until I can get Irfan to use my sizes.

I expect to hear back from him today about this and will update the thread when I know more.

I mean, I bought six diffeent sized coveralls from Aramark and sent to Irfan so he could measure the main parts so he could see what amount of fabric was needed in , say, the waist, to have the suit be called an "Extra Large".

So.. the saga continues.....

[Irfan Ali]

Hello Everyone.
Now I am also available here for answering your questions.
Me and jim will complete sizes details today and jim will send details later today here about size chart etc....

[Jim Burrill]

Irfan and I have decided to use the commercial sizes from the Aramark Uniform Company that they post for their workman's coveralls. We are converting their sizes to try to resemble the WW2 era size lable. We are putting the Army Size Number together with the modern sizes of L or XXL to let you know how to fit if you go to a store and try on coveralls, find one that you like the fit, and then note the modern size.

Have to tinker with the formatting. It will be easy to read when I redo the order form. for this post, you can just work your way over to match up the size to the measurement.

I will have a check box for having Irfan add 2" to the torso - This is your size +Tall.

If you want a longer inseam, click the box for your size + Long.

size 2/S 3/M 4/L 5/Xl 6/2XL 7/3XL Size 8/4XL


Height 5'5" to 5'6"/ 5'7" to 5'8"/ 5'9" to 5'10"/ 5'11" to 8'0"/ 6'1" to 6'2"/ 6'3" to 6'4"/ 6'4" to 6'5"

Breast 34" to 36"/ 38" to 40"/ 42" to 44"/ 46" to 48"/ 50" to 52"/ 54" to 56/ 58" to 60"

Waist 28" to 34"/ 32" to 34"/ 36" to 38"/ 40" to 42"/ 44" to 46"/ 48" to 50"

Leg Seam 30/ 30/ 30/ 31/ 31/ 34/ 35

[Eric R.]

Ok have you or Irfan procured the coveralls to use for sizing the patterns or are you all just using their sizing charts.

[Jim Burrill]

I bought 5 suits of the same pattern (although different colors) and sent on to Irfan to measure against. The size is what Aramark uses for them.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Irfan Ali

Hello Everyone.
Now I am also available here for answering your questions.
Me and jim will complete sizes details today and jim will send details later today here about size chart etc....

Mr Ali,

Is my order on its way? It is nearly 11 September.

Please send me a confirmation in reply.

Thank you,

[Tim Bell]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Mr Ali,

Is my order on its way? It is nearly 11 September.

Please send me a confirmation in reply.

Thank you,
Regards,
Hanno

Hanno

Let me know what you ordered - I have several and now cannot go... maybe one of the ones I have will fit you.

Cheers

Tim

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Tim Bell

Hanno

Let me know what you ordered - I have several and now cannot go... maybe one of the ones I have will fit you.

Hello Tim, saddened to hear you won't be able to join us this time.

Thanks for the offer, but I have had a suit made up to size. It was to arrive some time ago, now promised for today but it seems to be held up in customs in Pakistan...
So it seems I will be improperly dressed for XXX Corps

Cheers,
Hanno