restoration project waterbowser C15A 1943

[Harry Moon]

Originally Posted by Guy Verstrepen

Hey Grant,

This is the photo i mean.

Given that it looks like a single speed transfer case then there is no running it off the Transfer case PTO but of a transmission PTO. Does the data tag chassis model end with a "T"?

[Grant Bowker]

I see the model as C15-44?-MT.
Harry, do you have a listing of what options might be used in the last part of the model code. I have understood M=military, W=winch but this is based on observation - not period documents. It would be interesting to know what combinations exist.

[Guy Verstrepen]

Harry, Grant;
I have a clear picture of the model plate here.
and indeed they ended on MT.
in the book Drive to victory page 113 you will find the following.

M - military pattern.
W - winch.
P - power take - off.
T - transmission PTO.
and there is a pto on the transmission at this c15a.
the transfer case is one with 2 speeds, such as for the c60 and cgt

regards

[Grant Bowker]

A scan from the SB-7 manual for the water tank body is attached. Only by memory, I think the PTO would be below the level of the hole in the crossmember. I will look at my C15A to see whether to verify whether I have a similar hole.

[Mike K]

That CMP water tank looks to be a Thompson Brothers product, basically the standard oval 15 cwt British tank but without the rear storage compartment . In the CMP configuration the water purifying chemicals and the hoses would have been stored in the outside lockers ?

[Mike K]

Ah the rear locker is a separate box
A few old MLU threads

http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...cmp+water+tank

http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...cmp+water+tank


http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...cmp+water+tank

[Grant Bowker]

I looked at about 10 Chevrolets today (C15A to C60L), only one had a hole similar to the one shown in post 12 and that hole looked as if it might have been a modification, not on production.

The first photo shows the only crossmember with a hole in the given location. You can see that the winch blocks anything passing through the hole.
Teds winch.jpg

The second photo is of a C60S tipper. The transfer case mounted PTO can be seen through the winch hole in the crossmember.
C60S tipper PTO.jpg

The third photo is of a typical crossmember in the group checked today.
Crossmember.jpg

The fourth photo is the same truck as the third photo, taken from below the frame. Again, the upper shaft of the transfer case can be seen in the opening of the crossmember (no PTO, it is a single speed case). The location where a transmission mounted PTO would be fitted can be seen just to the right of the muffler. Although the smaller hole shown in post #12 is roughly in line with the transmission PTO, it seems a little unlikely that a shaft from the PTO would be angled up that high to drive a pump but I do not have a water bowser to compare this to.
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[Guy Verstrepen]

Originally Posted by Mike Kelly

That CMP water tank looks to be a Thompson Brothers product, basically the standard oval 15 cwt British tank but without the rear storage compartment . In the CMP configuration the water purifying chemicals and the hoses would have been stored in the outside lockers ?

Hey Mike

the rear compartment has been removed and has been mounted in place of the left fuel tank; unfortunately they have cut a piece from the top side off