restoration project waterbowser C15A 1943

[Grant Bowker]

A scan from the SB-7 manual for the water tank body is attached. Only by memory, I think the PTO would be below the level of the hole in the crossmember. I will look at my C15A to see whether to verify whether I have a similar hole.

[Mike K]

That CMP water tank looks to be a Thompson Brothers product, basically the standard oval 15 cwt British tank but without the rear storage compartment . In the CMP configuration the water purifying chemicals and the hoses would have been stored in the outside lockers ?

[Mike K]

Ah the rear locker is a separate box
A few old MLU threads

http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...cmp+water+tank

http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...cmp+water+tank


http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...cmp+water+tank

[Grant Bowker]

I looked at about 10 Chevrolets today (C15A to C60L), only one had a hole similar to the one shown in post 12 and that hole looked as if it might have been a modification, not on production.

The first photo shows the only crossmember with a hole in the given location. You can see that the winch blocks anything passing through the hole.
Teds winch.jpg

The second photo is of a C60S tipper. The transfer case mounted PTO can be seen through the winch hole in the crossmember.
C60S tipper PTO.jpg

The third photo is of a typical crossmember in the group checked today.
Crossmember.jpg

The fourth photo is the same truck as the third photo, taken from below the frame. Again, the upper shaft of the transfer case can be seen in the opening of the crossmember (no PTO, it is a single speed case). The location where a transmission mounted PTO would be fitted can be seen just to the right of the muffler. Although the smaller hole shown in post #12 is roughly in line with the transmission PTO, it seems a little unlikely that a shaft from the PTO would be angled up that high to drive a pump but I do not have a water bowser to compare this to.
view forward 1.jpg

[Bob Phillips]

Nice looking project.
I also have owned a couple of trucks painted grey/silver inside, not sure if military or just a deal on cheap spray paint.
Also it appears this vehicle has a ford ( possibly/probably two speed )
transfer case which would be a logical retro fit for an underpowered
(216 engine) tow truck. B.P.

[Bob Carriere]

Hi Bob

Sent you a PM on the trans tower........

can you contact me re delivery.......either in person Mother's day week end or my slow mail or Grey hound......

Bob C

[Guy Verstrepen]

Originally Posted by Bob Phillips

Nice looking project.
I also have owned a couple of trucks painted grey/silver inside, not sure if military or just a deal on cheap spray paint.
Also it appears this vehicle has a ford ( possibly/probably two speed )
transfer case which would be a logical retro fit for an underpowered
(216 engine) tow truck. B.P.

Hey Bob

quite possible, I have also seen a picture of an F22 with the same acceleration shifter, probably a military adaptation after the war.

[Guy Verstrepen]

Originally Posted by Guy Verstrepen

Hey Bob

quite possible, I have also seen a picture of an F22 with the same acceleration shifter, probably a military adaptation after the war.

The red shifter on the photo is for switching the transmission pto

[Guy Verstrepen]

Originally Posted by Grant Bowker

I looked at about 10 Chevrolets today (C15A to C60L), only one had a hole similar to the one shown in post 12 and that hole looked as if it might have been a modification, not on production.

The first photo shows the only crossmember with a hole in the given location. You can see that the winch blocks anything passing through the hole.
Attachment 99306

The second photo is of a C60S tipper. The transfer case mounted PTO can be seen through the winch hole in the crossmember.
Attachment 99307

The third photo is of a typical crossmember in the group checked today.
Attachment 99308

The fourth photo is the same truck as the third photo, taken from below the frame. Again, the upper shaft of the transfer case can be seen in the opening of the crossmember (no PTO, it is a single speed case). The location where a transmission mounted PTO would be fitted can be seen just to the right of the muffler. Although the smaller hole shown in post #12 is roughly in line with the transmission PTO, it seems a little unlikely that a shaft from the PTO would be angled up that high to drive a pump but I do not have a water bowser to compare this to.
Attachment 99309

Grant
I found another thread of a waterbowser here. (Ian Johns)
it is also provided with that hole, and behind it on the frame is a plate support attached to mount the power pump as shown, the holes for this plate support are also in my frame. gradually thanks to your help here I get more and more insight into how he was original.
http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=19723

[Guy Verstrepen]

thanks guys

thanks to you, I have come a step further.
in the meantime I am talking to a factory that can process all kinds of metal or it is possible to copy the water filters.

I will keep you informed here, but first I have to calculate some sizes because I have no real idea of the dimensions of such a filter.

greetings Guy.

[Owen Evans]

Originally Posted by Guy Verstrepen

thanks guys

thanks to you, I have come a step further.
in the meantime I am talking to a factory that can process all kinds of metal or it is possible to copy the water filters.

I will keep you informed here, but first I have to calculate some sizes because I have no real idea of the dimensions of such a filter.

greetings Guy.

Check out the attached image of the type 2 metafilter. You should be able to work out the size from the dimensions indicated.

Owen.

[Guy Verstrepen]

Originally Posted by Mike Kelly

That CMP water tank looks to be a Thompson Brothers product, basically the standard oval 15 cwt British tank but without the rear storage compartment . In the CMP configuration the water purifying chemicals and the hoses would have been stored in the outside lockers ?

Hey Mike

the rear compartment has been removed and has been mounted in place of the left fuel tank; unfortunately they have cut a piece from the top side off