This is an odd ad!

[rob love]

No doubt. I see they are on sale next week at Cdn tire, so I need to do a bit of research and pick the best model.

[Wayne Hingley]

It looks like you had a successful trip overall Rob. Will you use the new 25pr chassis for your second gun? You should have a decent backlog of project work in the lineup now...

several years ago I had a similar experience to your Dodge jumping incident, where I took my truck and trailer airborne as I went over a dead moose lying on the road in the middle of the night.

[hrpearce]

GPS in Australia I have found Garmin the most accurate.
Most people I know have switched to using there smart phones to avoid having to pay for map updates.

[maple_leaf_eh]

Originally Posted by hrpearce

GPS in Australia I have found Garmin the most accurate.
Most people I know have switched to using there smart phones to avoid having to pay for map updates.

Phones are OK, but distracted driving has now surpassed drunk driving as the leading cause of highway fatalities.

distracted, drunk, drowsy, drugged, dangerously and detached

My navigators get plugged into the PC only every year; there aren't that many new roads being built where I have to go. Look a letter L in the model number which signifies Lifetime updates included in the purchase price.

[rob love]

It would seem the competition in the GPS field has made it so the newer Garmin GPS (along with other brands) now include free map updates.

It is the megallin seires of GPS currently on sale a Cdn tire, but they are not highly rated by the users. In some cost comparing, I see best buy has them at better prices than Cdn tires sale prices, especially the Garmin series. It is rare I will buy from best buy but I am thinking this may be the exception.

There is not a lot of need for GPS where I live. If it is around noon, and you want to go North, you drive so the shadow casts ahead of you. For East and west, take a road that has the sun out the appropriate window, considering the time of day. But Southern Ontario does not have it's roads generally going east to west, and rarely seems to have the sun showing. Your mileage may vary.

I do not know what these "smart phones" are that you speak of. My phone lets me make phone calls, and apparently I may be able to take photographs with it, although I have never intentionally done so.

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Originally Posted by rob love

But Southern Ontario does not have it's roads generally going east to west, and rarely seems to have the sun showing.

Hey now, that lack of sun is just Ohio smog blowing in. And for navigation we use the lakes. North (...ish...the lakes run at an angle) is away from the water (the Niagara region being the mind blowing exception with lakes on both sides) and water out your left or right window equates to east and west. Works well enough.

[rob love]

Bruce

That would well enough if you are simply travelling along the QEW. But if you go inland more than a few miles, the reference point to the lakes are gone.

At night, out here, we can use the light from the next city as a reference point. That is good to about 25 miles. Way too many lights where you are at to try and use that method.

Years back, when I first came to Shilo, they had just built the new base maintenance building. It had a row of lights along the towers of the roof. You could see those 10 miles out in the training area....nearly impossible to get lost and easy to find your way back to camp. The lights have either been disconnected or else burned out over the years so that ref point is gone.

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

It's hard to explain. Once you've been here for a while you just instinctively know where the lake is. No need to actually see it. As to the lights, I'm far enough away from Toronto and the GTA to know what you mean. The local burgs of 1000 people are clear, local and bright. If conditions are right you can make out the deep, distant glow of London, 50 km away.

I mock Toronto people who once...once...in their life saw stars. All it took was an electrical blackout of the entire eastern seaboard. Well, some saw stars, that is if they weren't trapped in a non-functioning elevator in their overpriced condo.

Originally Posted by rob love

Bruce

That would well enough if you are simply travelling along the QEW. But if you go inland more than a few miles, the reference point to the lakes are gone.

At night, out here, we can use the light from the next city as a reference point. That is good to about 25 miles. Way too many lights where you are at to try and use that method.

Years back, when I first came to Shilo, they had just built the new base maintenance building. It had a row of lights along the towers of the roof. You could see those 10 miles out in the training area....nearly impossible to get lost and easy to find your way back to camp. The lights have either been disconnected or else burned out over the years so that ref point is gone.