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Old 10-01-19, 07:23
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brackets for sand channels maybe?....or extra lengths of hose?

Alex
Hi Alex,

The sand channels gets my vote.

http://www.desert-vehicles.org/index.php?article_id=204

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The delivery chap dropped this off today. It's an original PTO for the British 200 Gallon Water Tank driven pump (Morris CS8, Bedford MWC, or similar). Will eventually take pride of place on my C15 Chevrolet.

Hope the photos help others who may be looking for one of these.

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Think the Bedford used a Mono type pump directly driven from the engine crankshaft , the crew would slide the pump in from the front end like a crank handle. Unusual find that PTO setup you have.
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Think the Bedford used a Mono type pump directly driven from the engine crankshaft , the crew would slide the pump in from the front end like a crank handle. Unusual find that PTO setup you have.
Hi Mike,

Good point; I think it was an 'early' vs. 'late' thing. Here's the bumper-mounted type, which connected into the crank shaft (which I'm terming 'early'). You can just about tell from the last picture that the C15 doesn't appear to have that clamp bracket on the front bumper.

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And here's some photos of the PTO driven unit (which I'm calling 'late'). That first photo is I believe the PTO control going through the floor of the cab

Note these photos (and the previous ones) have been kicking around on my computer for a long time; if anyone recognises them as theirs, let me know so I can provide the appropriate recognition!

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This one just popped up on Ebay UK:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/water-bow...EAAOSwknVe0sjC

Remains of a pretty standard 200 gallon water tank, possibly either Bedford MWC or Morris CS8. Except it has a small instruction plate in the bottom left side of the rear locker, identifying the priming point for the power pump. Mine doesn't have that, because it would be underneath the lockers!

Unless my eyes deceive me, the mounting points for the rear locker framework appear to be on the right side, whereas they are normally seen on the left side of the tank. Could this possibly be the same arrangement as the one shown on the back of the C15 below? Does this now suggest the early British water tanks were built in both left and right hand versions, depending what truck they were destined for?

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This one just popped up on Ebay UK:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/water-bow...EAAOSwknVe0sjC

Remains of a pretty standard 200 gallon water tank, possibly either Bedford MWC or Morris CS8. Except it has a small instruction plate in the bottom left side of the rear locker, identifying the priming point for the power pump. Mine doesn't have that, because it would be underneath the lockers!

Unless my eyes deceive me, the mounting points for the rear locker framework appear to be on the right side, whereas they are normally seen on the left side of the tank. Could this possibly be the same arrangement as the one shown on the back of the C15 below? Does this now suggest the early British water tanks were built in both left and right hand versions, depending what truck they were destined for?

Owen.
Interesting the LH and RH configuration.

Found these pics of a NZ MW water truck in the 1950's or 60's .
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