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The crawler tractor which is used to drag out the Weasel is most likely each-military as well. NL-HaNA_2.24.10.02_0_120-1155_1.jpg.jpg Weasel Westakapelle.jpg Source: http://proxy.handle.net/10648/af2323...8-003048976d84 Studying another picture of the gap pictured shortly after the battle show an overturned Weasel trapped under the steel beach defences: NL-HaNA_2.24.01.03_0_900-2004.jpg Weasel Westkapelle shoreline.jpg Source: http://proxy.handle.net/10648/ac053c...8-003048976d84
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In November 1944, the British disembarked three D7 Armoured Bulldozers. Two of the four Armoured Dozers fell victim to mines ashore, the fourth did not disembark (LCT Damson and its load were too damaged to land at Westkapelle, and diverted to Ostend, Belgium).
2019-10-05-rdMAG1-Landing_bij_Westkapelle_op_-3-FC_web.jpg Only after the war ended in May 1945, enough resources could be freed up to reconstruct the dyke. This was done by combining the techniques of traditional Dutch dyke building and heavy earth moving equipment brought in by the Allies. The dyke at Westkapelle was closed on 12 October. 1492.jpg Two of those bulldozers were buried under an emergency dyke. When the final dyke was completed, the two dozers were excavated one year later by the contracting company "Nieuwenhuyse and De Braal". They were kept working till 1965. This photo shows the excavation of a bulldozer in 1946: 1529.jpg In 2016 Henk Meijer donated a Caterpillar D4 to the Liberation Museum in Nieuwdorp. This is presented as possibly one of the dozers which was buried in the dyke. Obviously, this dozer is not one of those which landed in November 1944. 16-12-06-bulldozer2.jpg Source: http://westkapelle-beeldbank.nl/, https://www.bevrijdingsmuseumzeeland...caterpillar-d4 and others
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Wim de Braal, which recovered in 1946 the two D6A armored dozers was my grandfather. We bought this week with my brother a D6A with serial nr. 1T3038 ![]() Requested information, regarding serial nr. to CAT visitors center in the US. And waiting. Wondering if you could give us more info? Best regards, Willem de Braal |
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I believe Jack Olding & co in the UK built the dozers under licence, and also did the (British) armoured conversion, but hopefully Caterpillar will be able to help you with more info.
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Jack Olding only did the armoured conversion. The tractors themselves were licence built in the USA but I don't know who by. I was told about 15 years ago that Caterpillar at that time denied the existence of the 1T series as 'nothing to do with us' but that might just have been one particular employee's ignorance. The tractors were shipped to the UK as complete standard tractors and the conversion is very much a matter of adding a big armoured box so of course it was equally easy to remove it, replace the missing sheet metal parts and you have a standard tractor again. The Dozer kit was supplied by LaPlant Chote who were major manufacturers of hydraulic dozer conversion kits in the US at that time, when tractor manufacturers only built bare tractors. Jack Olding also did many upgrades to Ram tanks and other armoured vehicles but never built complete vehicles from scratch. David |
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IMG-20200819-WA0004.jpg I got this from Christiaan de Braal yesterday (posted here with his permission), but I have no idea what document it’s actually from. |
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However there must have been additional D6A's built since this one is clearly 1T3060: D6A 1T3060.jpg Michel |
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! I hope you will post an exhaustive photo walkaround soon!Do you have any photo or information on your grandfather's recovered pair of D6As? Serial numbers or else? I have nothing on 1T3038, only a photo of its immediate predecessor 1T3037 here: Armoured Bulldozers on D Day Michel |
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Hi Michel and all of you,
Thanks for the congrats! Where very pleased with the dozer ofcourse. As we're very sure it's a "brother" or even one of the 4 (?). Landed at Westkapelle. Found it on Tuesday, and arrived yesterday evening. We are intending to restore it back to original shape, including armore ![]() We"ll keep you updated, also with the answer of Caterpillar ![]() BR, Willem Last edited by Willem de Braal; 11-07-20 at 00:39. |
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There were at least three D6As and two D7As there, plus a few more that I’ve never seen photographs of that were taken from up close enough to identify them.
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http://www.bouwmachinesvantoen-archi...de%20Braal.htm so everyone can see exactly what you mean by “recovered” I strongly suspect the one shown being dug up there is the one I posted a picture of earlier, standing in fairly deep water, and the second to be the one whose armoured cab was removed and left behind on the beach.(Also note the wagon with the Sherman wheels.) Last edited by Jakko Westerbeke; 10-07-20 at 12:08. |
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Alex,
Quite right about the custom diesel tank. Sorry to confuse matters but I was seeing that as a 'sheet metal part' that was easy to change. I should have been clearer. Jakko, Thank you for the link to the archive. Those are great photos. The photos show that they removed the engine from the dozer that they dug up, presumably to reduce weight. it would have had to be removed anyway for rebuild. Willem, Would it be possible for you to post a couple of photos of Cat 1T3038 as it is now please ? Does it still have the dozer kit with the frame between the tracks. If so I would be very interested to see how that is attached to the tractor. David |
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Looking at the photos again, I have realized that, at least on the D6 conversion, the driver's position was raised by at least 30cm. presumably to provide a better view for the driver. I don't think that these armoured dozers were wadeproofed to any great depth, hence the drowned ones ! In the archive there is at least one photo of one with a home built cab that clearly has its floor much higher than a standard tractor.
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I suspect the bulldozer was simply left where it stood and buried under the sand of the new sea dyke that was built. Parts of that were made using a suction dredger, which sprays a mixture of water and sand to where the sand is wanted, so it would not be a problem at all to bury a vehicle that happens to be in the way.BTW, the reason I said that I think this is the one that stood in the water by itself is because of the houses visible in the photos of it being recovered. Though I haven’t tried matching them to any houses that still exist (maybe I should give that a try …), my knowledge of the lay of the land leads me to suspect it must be close to where the photo shows the drowned bulldozer with ruins on the right-hand side of the picture. |
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Your photo would explain where this weasel came from. This photo is from a collection of photos circulated years ago showing the remains of a weasel being extracted from the sand. Cheers John W. Buried weasel.JPG |
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Hi Hanno,
The armoured Cat in the photo you posted is a D6, not a D7 (the exhaust arrangement is a clue to part them). Cheers, Patrice. |
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The picture I attached was taken during the landing on the north end of White Beach. Note it is named "LILIAN". Of the four Armoured Dozers which embarked, only three disembarked of which two fell victim to mines ashore. Only one Armoured Dozer which reached the town. The second picture shows one "at work clearing road trough what was apparently once a town". Note this is a different one than "LILIAN". Other pictures show more than two derelict Armoured Dozers. Would they have brought in more Armoured Dozers after the initial landing on 1 November? Thanks, Hanno 39752.jpg 40022.jpg Sources: dezb.nl, 39752 / IWM BU1270, Sgt Crocker 1-3.11.44
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Additionally, 509th Field Company, RE embarked with one (1) Dozer each on LCT nrs. 8, 22, 25, 26 (from 510 FC Coy?) and 27, totaling nine (9) D7 Armoured Dozers. History of the Royal Engineers, Vol IX, 1938–1948 states six (6) disembarked, of which all but one (1) got stuck in the soft mud: Quote:
I have labelled them "A", "B", "C", and "D" which have no other meaning than to discern them on photos. Two dozers "A" and "B" and "C" on the north side of the breach, where all the AFVs got hopelessly stuck: 14670_annotated_Dozer_A-B.jpg 39848_annotated_Dozer_B-C.jpg Dozer "D" on the south side of the breach. It seems to have a name on the top edge of the rear armour. As with other vehicles found in the village after the war, the census numbers seem to have been painted out (possibly because they had been struck off charge). b5500_annotated_Dozer_D.jpg
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To me, dozer "D" looks like a D6. Dozer "C" could be a D6 as well, judging from the pipes.....but hard to see from this far away.
Dozer "B" does look like a D7 Alex
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This picture was taken at the north end of TARE WHITE, which was only a small part of the landing zone where it proved possible to go onshore successfully.
Left: Armoured Dozer Centre: Sherman V gun tank, T-148829(?) "WOLF OF BADENOCH" Turret No. 10, 1LBH "A" Sqn HQ, disembarked from LCT "5 BRAMBLE". Right: Sherman V gun tank, T-147976 "COCK O'THE NORTH" Turret No. 11, 1LBH "A" Sqn HQ, disembarked from LCT "6 CHERRY". It still has its wading trunks fitted. 88270205_1056027371448940_6357232676813930496_n.jpg Picture via Marcel van Hoepen
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![]() Let’s begin on the southern side, near Erika. You identified one bulldozer there, labelled “D”; a second one stood nearby, but I’ve never seen a photo of one. However, I do have a photocopy of a map of this area made (most likely) by Rijkswaterstaat as a plan for the construction of the new dyke, which was given to me about 15 years ago when I was involved in the construction of a large 1:150 scale diorama of the construction of the new dyke, for which I supplied scratchbuilt models of two armoured bulldozers and two LVT (4)s. I recently managed to find it again, and it is what seems to be an accurate map of the situation at the time, with four “tanks” marked on it. An annotation by the man who gave me the map indicates two were Buffalos and two were bulldozers: Erika map.jpeg (north is to the right) The bulldozer Hanno labelled “D” is the one on the left (south) on the map, and the Buffalo nearby is then obviously the one also shown in the photo of bulldozer “D”. Though I’m not sure where he got the data what the other two vehicles were exactly, and because he passed away last year I can’t go and ask, given that he had extensive knowledge relating to the war and the works on the dyke, and had spent his whole working life at Rijkswaterstaat, I’m confident this is correct. (By the way, Landingsvaartuig means “landing craft”. These were three LCT (3)s left behind, two of which are in the background on the same photo.) Then there’s the one I think was on the beach — see a previous post by me above. Though it’s really just a silhouette, it looks like an armoured bulldozer to me, That gives us, what, six present and accounted for? Oh yeah, and one bulldozer was on board LCT 513 that turned back, so that’s seven. Let’s find the remaining two … Bulldozer on dyke.jpeg Bulldozer behind dyke.jpg (both photos by Neeltje Flipse-Roelse, courtesy of Polderhuis Westkapelle) I don’t think I’d ever seen these two photos until yesterday night, or if I had, then I hadn’t really looked at them. After double-checking the location of the first one, it’s clearly on top of the old dyke and not one of the three left on the beach, because those are a long way behind the big wall in front of/below it — which is the antitank wall the Germans built on the landward side of the dyke (it wasn’t freestanding, the foot of the dyke was dug away and the wall built into it so there was a sheer drop off the dyke). In the second photo, which is older because there’s no new dyke yet, you can see the same dozer in the background, plus one drowned in the sea just south of the village proper. From the knowledge I picked up in this thread, I take it the second photo is of a D6? The other one looks to me like it could be a D7. I’m wondering if it’s the same one shown in the better-known photo of a bulldozer actually at work in Westkapelle: D7A (Sgt. C. Crocker, Beeldbank Zeeland 40022).jpg |
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Jakko,
I see the drowned dozer in your second photo above as a D6 and the working one in your last photo as a D7. This is based solely on the position of the air intakes. David |
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Hi Hanno,
Unfortunatly there is quasi nothing about the Armoured Cats. Some very minimal infos in these books : B9tz1BW.jpg pj6pWPy.jpg Hope it helps, Cheers, Patrice. Last edited by Hanno Spoelstra; 01-12-19 at 15:05. Reason: attached pictures |
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Attached is a post-war picture of two Armoured Dozers which got stuck on Red beach at Westkapelle: 14670_2_annotated.jpg
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Footage from British Pathe:
The Walcheren Landings 1944: https://britishpathe.com/video/the-walcheren-landings Covering both Infatuate I and II Western Front War Report 1944: https://britishpathe.com/video/western-front-war-report Various shots of Alligators crossing Scheldt. Invasion Scenes Europe: British Troops: https://britishpathe.com/video/invas...itish-troops-2 E.g. Armoured Dozer on White Beach North Armoured Dozer white beach.jpg Invasion Scenes Europe 1944: https://britishpathe.com/video/invas...enes-europe-53 Commonwealth soldiers resupplied during Battle of the Scheldt, possibly at Sas Van Gent, Oct 1944 E.g. Weasel in action Weasel Sas van Gent.jpg
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LVT (2).jpg Also a number of LVTs in the distance at the left of the photo, near Erika: LVTs.jpg These latter ones also appear in another photo taken across the Gap, with what I think is another armoured bulldozer: Buffalo's en D7A bij Erika (Nationaal Archief 2.24.01.03 900-2001).jpg Zoomed in: LVTs and bulldozer.jpg |
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