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02-10-07, 22:09
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Canadian Army jeep trailer
Pictured below is a trailer which is/was owned by John Marchant. Interesting to see both the CMD and census number surviving.
Does anybody have more info on the 1/4-ton Bantam BRC / Willys MBT trailer in Canadian Army service? Thanks, Hanno
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04-10-07, 02:04
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Hi Hanno,
While unfrotunately i dont have any info on the trailers, i just thougt i would point out the nomenclature you have given this trailer- While trailers were made by Bantam, they werent BRC's (that was the protptype jeep). The model of trailer made by Bantam during the war was the T3, superceded post war by the T3C. You got the Willys side of things correct! As a side note, there was also a range of other manufacturers during the war who built this style of trailer (i think somewhere around about 8 more?)- so they werent all T3/MBT's. There are lists of the producers and production numbers in several posts on g503.com in the 1/4 ton trailer section if your interested. Cheers, Ian.
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Ian Fawbert 1942 Script Willys MB, sn:131175 1942 Script Ford GPW, sn:11730 1944 Ford GPW 1943 #3 GMH jeep trailer 1945 #4 GMH, RAAF jeep Trailer SOLD: Ford F15A. Aust. #? Office Body. www.vintageengines.net
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04-10-07, 11:33
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Let me rephrase the question: does anybody have more info on the US-built 1/4-ton jeep trailer in Canadian Army service? Thanks,
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05-10-07, 13:52
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Here is a picture of a US-built 10-cwt trailer towed by a 15-cwt truck.
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12-10-07, 15:34
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Hello Hanno
We bought a large quantity of US 1/4 ton trailers. Both Bantam and Willys were used. We modified some of these for 10cwt by changing the springs, moving the spring plates, adding handles and then also adding the extra pintle hook and plug to make a trailer train. We had some of these modified for Mortar carriers and other specialty roles. Usually the CMD number was removed when it was assigned to a Unit and the standard CZ number added. I am looking for data on these as well as i wish to include trailers in my next WW2 Jeep book. I have some serial numbers as well as War Department numbers. The Navy as well as the Airforce used these besides the army. Thanks Please feel free to contact me if you need more info. Eric
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Collecting data on the WW2 Canadian jeep and trailer. Serial, WD Numbers etc.
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10-02-17, 02:31
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Well seeing as I recently bought the sad remains of a Canadian MBT I thought that I'd post a pic I found from LAC of one in service. Looks like MP use behind a CMP.
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07-11-19, 13:23
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Hi all,
Bumping this back to the top with a couple of questions on a Canadian used Bantam T3 Trailer We are just about finishing a full nut& bolt restoration of Bantam T3 #22885, DoD 29th June 1943. Body Box number is 52902. The original dataplate clearly shows that it had been delivered to the Canadian Defence Forces (the US manual lists have been crossed out and replaced with Canandian info), and the trailer still had the longer heavy duty springs with relocated spring brackets and gussets , the tandem trailer triangle kit and the holes for the tandem trailer receptacle box at the right rear corner of the body box. So it was restored back to these Canadian specs... Only things left to do now are new tyres, shocks, a final coat of OD on the inside of the box and applying the CX number on the rear panel. Since there are no official lists for the CX number, we chose number CX4252902, as most numbers I see on original photos start with CX42 and added the box number 52902 to come up with something that looks good… Now for my questions… 1. Since this trailer was delivered with a standard US Army type dataplate which was then altered to Canadian specs and not the plate with the Canadian manual numbers directly printed on the plate; would it have been delivered with a blue drab U.S.A. registration Number on the rear panel, only to be covered with the CX number? 2. When applying the 4" CX number, what would be the best location, seeing that it doesn't fit between the rear reflectors? centered on the rear panel as shown on my photo? Or should I use 3" stencils? 3. Would it have had unit markings…? Jeep which will generally tow it is marked to the RHLI, 2nd Division. Will post more photos once all is completed! THANKS!! Last edited by Johan WILLAERT; 07-11-19 at 14:05.
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08-11-19, 06:00
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This may or may not be of interest:
http://wwiijeepparts.com/Archives/JeepTrailer.html For the WD number, official dimensions were 3 1/2 inches in height, and not more than 2 1/2 inches width (per individual digit). The width of the "brushstroke" would be 5/8 inch. regards, Jack
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08-11-19, 09:20
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Thx for posting that…
Although 5th Division and relatively early war it sure helps! Cheers, Johan
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08-11-19, 17:12
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Hi Johan, the instructions for WD numbers is the standard set out in an Appendix "A" for all Canadian units - it just happens that the example quoted is from 5th CDN Armd War Diaries. The only variation one might find is the style of font.
regards, Jack
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08-11-19, 17:18
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12-11-19, 23:29
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CX Trailer
Hello Johan
I hope that you have not painted the markings on yet. Your original WD is CX5712917  I do not have the unit it was attached too. The WD number was across the back and the front of the trailer. It has been seen along the bottom, middle and top left on the rear in both as original stencil and filled in. With the larger springs your trailer was converted to 10CWT. It is unusual that the data plate was re-stamped. Hope this helps. Eric
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Collecting data on the WW2 Canadian jeep and trailer. Serial, WD Numbers etc.
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13-11-19, 09:06
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Thx, Eric...
Havent marked it yet! How about a possible USA number because of the restamped plate instead of a pre-made plate with Canadian info? I will try to make out the size of the stencil from your original photo above Cheers, Johan
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21-11-19, 11:27
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Here it is...
Will stencil the correct number next weekend... Only thing left is better tires...
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22-11-19, 08:09
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I have got one with towing hook , with bigger springs , but hangers are also then on another position .
On mine there where never holes drilled for the electric socket box , on another ex Canadian one I saw there was also no hole for the socket box.
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24-11-19, 18:13
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27-11-19, 10:39
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Thx Eric! Stencilled the number last night...
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01-12-19, 14:35
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Fitting used, but not abused, tires with wear that matches the rest of the trailer...
All finished and taken for a testdrive...
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09-12-19, 18:40
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13-12-19, 03:56
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Looking very good . Nice hook in the back . Any pictures of the elusive Jeep trailer trains ?
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13-12-19, 15:38
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13-12-19, 15:39
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08-03-20, 16:47
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Excellent info and great work gentlemen! Thanks for sharing so others can learn from it.
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25-06-20, 17:49
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Just like the one from Johan, my Willys MBT
Found and bought for Hfl 250 (Dutch Florijn) back in 1997  Original number (No CX prefix) on the side panel   restored https://photos.app.goo.gl/SoZnzm3bomKxZFhM8 RCEME markings re painted like found on original sheet metal.
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Cheers Remko The Netherlands 43 Willys MB Willys MBT CX 5713957 With tandem hitch Bantam T3
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15-09-21, 11:08
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"A Canadian Army 10-cwt trailer, January 1949, RCAF Station Rockliffe, Ontario. Library and Archives Canada photo."
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26-09-21, 12:01
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