Calling Rob Love or others with info... Jeep F-head engine

[rob love]

Down to 4?


Number one should be on the bottom. Number 3 should be to the right of that, number four should be at the top, and number two is left of that.


Of course, it all will depend on where the oil pump got installed, but the photo below is pretty much the standard installation. With the 60 amp alternator, the single pin power supply connector will almost touch the alternator.


I'll check my own Jeep this morning and confirm the photo. Again, checking for compression and setting number one should do it.

[rob love]

If the timing is not the problem, then two things that I might add.

Make sure the plugs are dry. When they get soaked, they can act up. Pull them and you can dry them with a heat gun or light application of a propane torch.



Also, if you ran it on regular (ethanol) blend fuel last year, and that fuel was sitting in the carb, there are two little diaphragms on the carb that can get effected by the ethanol. They are held on with 4 screws each, and are on the front and back of the carb as it is located on the engine.



I have also seen crappy coils. The original autolite coils were good, but towards the end more and more of the stuff came from offshore. There were bad coils, and the caps had to have the holes enlarged to get them to fit in the covers. You can usually tell the bad caps as guys will have installed them with just 2 screws and the rotor will rub and break on the now offset cap.



I still think that your timing is the problem.



In all my years, I did see one engine break the phonelic timing gear under the front cover. But that was rare in my books. It was on an in-service Jeep at that. I used to hoard all Jeep parts back then, and the repair was done in about an hour or two. I worked faster back then....today that would likely be an all day event.

[Bob Carriere]

Hi David

Engine is military rebuilt and ran perfectly while sitting in the crate 6 months ago??????

[Bob Carriere]

Rob

You picture with the wire location is DIFFERENT..........

The answer is probably right there.......

I worked with the dizzy cap with the plug wires still on and never questioned their location as that is how, presumably they wereleft by the owner when he took them off the old engine.

In a nut shell.....my number one wire is where you have the number 4 and my number 4 is where the number one appears on your picture.......

We have been trying to start it 180 degrees out of sync........

Even the photograph of the dizzy he took as he was taking it apart shows the 180 out of sequence....... we have been setting the BTDC on the exhaust stroke.......

Will pull out the dizzy....turnt he engine to BTDC and re insert the dizzy whcih should index in the same position you showed in your picture.

Then find a hammer and take turns hitting ourselves over the head to the tune of the roaring engine.

How you a large beer and St Hubert chicken........

[Michael R.]

(paraphrased)
“Then find a hammer and take turns hitting ourselves over the head to the tune of the roaring engine.
Owe you a large beer and St Hubert chicken...”

avec ...
(Est-ce que ça va mieux, monsieur Carrier? ��)

[Bob Carriere]

.....those are not St Hubert Fries!!!!!

10 am tomorrow morning I will be at the guys house to try out the solution...

Bob C

[rob love]

Bob: You said the oil pump slot was offset, so you do not need to pull the distributor...just the 4 wires off the cover and re-install them to the order I have shown. Then set your timing mark to 5BTDC, and turn the distributor clockwise until the points are just opening.



Pulling the distributor will accomplish nothing, since the oil pump should be indexed from the re-builder. This is assuming nobody has pulled the oil pump.



I think just about anyone on this forum knows about the frustration when something doesn't work the way you think it should, and the obvious answer just doesn't present itself.Usually walking away for a while is the answer....I know I have awoken at 2 in the morning with the solution to some of these type of events.



Last note: Ixnay on the St Hubert-eh....the wife has still not forgiven me for having it (and even worse not appreciating it) back when we recovered those 25 pounders several years ago. I told her about your offer of St Huberts tonight, and she called me an ***-****.