Need help reading this

[Robert Bergeron]

Happy New Year . Need help reading / deciphering this . It might be No 19 related not sure . Truck mount installation or something similar . Thanks

[rob love]

Philco Corp of Canada Ltd
Wireless Sets Canadian no: xx
Truck xxxxxxxxxxxxx Kit
Installation Kit
Line Case 4 of 7
3373

C/l\
Canada Canada Canada

[Robert Bergeron]

Thanks Rob , makes a lot of sense what you wrote .

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Originally Posted by rob love

Philco Corp of Canada Ltd
Wireless Sets Canadian no: xx
Truck xxxxxxxxxxxxx Kit
Installation Kit
Line Case 4 of 7
3373

C/l\
Canada Canada Canada

Other than a mushy 'M', I almost see:

Truck Roof Mount Kit

[Grant Bowker]

Maybe "TRUCK ??? GROUND KIT"...

I don't think the ??? can be "AND", as in Truck and Ground Kit

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Grant Bowker

Maybe "TRUCK ??? GROUND KIT"...

I don't think the ??? can be "AND", as in Truck and Ground Kit

I agree with your 'GROUND' and think it could be 'AND'. 19 set manuals talk about truck and/or ground installations.

[David Dunlop]

Taking what Rob started with, the spacing between words would make Bruce’s idea for the 3rd line being “Truck and Ground Kit” a good possibility.

Is it possible, up to that point, we are just reading the first complete part of the item description?

The second part of the description would then read:

“Installation Kit Line”
“Case 4 of 7”

Could this case then have been part of a kit used to interface an unknown wireless system with some unknown form of land line, telephone switchboard system?

David

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

I can't think of what wireless set it would be other than a 19 or 52 with that lend lease decal.

[David Dunlop]

Hi Bruce.

The RCA HAA units had a 3-ton truck set up with a 53-Set and receiver, along with a couple of switchboard systems and a bunch of multiphone??? equipment. Not sure what that latter stuff is, but I think the premise of the vehicle was to coordinate incoming target information and distribute it to the HAA batteries in the vehicles area of control.

I think the 53-Set was strictly a made in England item, but could Canadian companies have still been given orders to make kits for it, to fulfill requirements for the Canadian Army? They could still have labeled the kits as Canadian make.

Just guessing out loud.

David

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Originally Posted by David Dunlop

Hi Bruce.

The RCA HAA units had a 3-ton truck set up with a 53-Set and receiver, along with a couple of switchboard systems and a bunch of multiphone??? equipment. Not sure what that latter stuff is, but I think the premise of the vehicle was to coordinate incoming target information and distribute it to the HAA batteries in the vehicles area of control.

I think the 53-Set was strictly a made in England item, but could Canadian companies have still been given orders to make kits for it, to fulfill requirements for the Canadian Army? They could still have labeled the kits as Canadian make.

Just guessing out loud.

David

I've never seen Canadian equipment made for British sets. Interchangeable parts for set we both made sure, but I think this is a Canadian kit for a Canadian set. Maybe we can get a closer pic of the wireless set number?

[Tony Smith]

Wireless Sets Canadian no xx
Truck COM GROUND Kit
Installation Kit
LINK Case 4 of 7
3373

[rob love]

By George, I think he's got it.


The COM GROUND thing really had me stumped.

[Robert Bergeron]

Wireless No xx

[Robert Bergeron]

Side view of the box

[Robert Bergeron]

Overall view of the box . Thanks guys . Mystery solved

[Chris Suslowicz]

It's "Truck Cum Ground Kit", otherwise known as the "Truck and Ground Station".

I'm sure I have a post-WW2 C.E.S. for something like that (but far simpler than the "you can fit this to just about anything except a tank" Canadian version).

The non-slang meaning of 'cum' is from the Latin meaning 'with' and tends to mean 'combined with' in English. e.g. 'garage cum workshop' (it's used as both) or 'cum laude' - 'with honours' as a university graduation which is all Latin.

So basically it's the extremely comprehensive kit shown in the Canadian Working Instructions for the WS19 that can be fitted (Just!) into a wireless truck but also taken out and used as a ground station.

The meaning that gets blocked for obscenity is considerably more recent.

Chris.

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

"CUM", not a word in common usage nowadays. Cum to think of it, "WIRELESS" has taken on a whole thing of it own too.

[rob love]

The only place I can recollect the word is with regard to University graduates: Cum Laude (academic honor of distinction )


Being a tradesman, and proud of it, I have rarely set foot into universities.

[Tony Smith]

Originally Posted by Robert Bergeron

Side view of the box

Now THAT is the photo you should have posted first!

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

-cum-
preposition

uk / -kʌm-/ us / -kʌm-/


used to join two nouns, showing that a person or thing does two things or has two purposes; combined with:

as in "my hobby cum obsession with building old trucks drives my wife nuts."

[Robert Bergeron]

Come to think of it i have a great group of friends cum experts here on MLU . Happy New Year . Yes i should of looked all around the box first . I just did not expect to find that writing on the sides .... Next time .

[Chris Suslowicz]

Originally Posted by Robert Bergeron

Come to think of it i have a great group of friends cum experts here on MLU . Happy New Year . Yes i should of looked all around the box first . I just did not expect to find that writing on the sides .... Next time .

It's probably stencilled on the side so you can identify it in storage racking, and on top for when it's on the floor.

(The fact that it's "Case 4 of 7" gives some idea of the sheer quantity of kit that makes up the "Truck-cum-Ground" station. Also, comparing the top and side pictures, both dashes are present, but one is scraped off on each image.)

Chris.