jeep windshield - need help with a measurement

[Jack Geratic]

My purpose for initiating this thread is to create the artwork that will be printed out for a 1/35 scale jeep I've planned to build as operated by Crerar in Normandy. As can be seen, there are two different War Department/Census Numbers.

The diagram that was linked by Eric, appeared as appendix "C" section of the 4th Cdn Armd Div. around February 1943. I've no doubt of it's authenticity, but for me, I'm seeing something different in the 1944 photos.

formation study.jpg

The formation marking actually scales down quite nicely, just need to trim off a bit of the sides if wanting to conform to the 7 x 5.5 inches. I think I understand though, why the rounding down to 7 inches, as the scaling of the width results in quite a bizarre fraction.

The unit sign is much more problematic when going by the diagram measurements, as it would have you fit an almost square design into a horizontal format. Rereading Eric's post, I noticed he has switched the values around, 7 inches being the height for the AoS marking. Now this is doable, but is pushing the limit of the surface area on the front windshield. Obviously the 2" white bar will have to located within the 7 inch height.

regards,
Jack

[Ed Storey]

Official painting guides are just that - guides. Combine what was published during the war with the advice that James gives and you cannot go wrong.

[Jack Geratic]

Came across this arrangement for the jeep's rear side. Dated as October 1942, it may not have been followed as such by 1944?

http://www.rcsigs.ca/index.php/Vehic...als_-_Oct_1942
900px-1cdnarmysigs_vehmarkings_oct42_pics_page1.jpg

regards,
Jack

[Patrice DEBUCQUOY]

Hello Jack,

IIRC the Mapple Leaf is yellow for WW2.
The golden one is post war.

Cheers,
Patrice.

[Ed Storey]

Jack, as the war progressed there were changes in vehicle markings. No one set of marking guidelines fits all the vehicles in use. Your best bet is to find a photograph of a particular vehicle which you like and emulate what you see in the photograph.

[BCA]

The modified windshield in post #5 (on jeep CM 4232012) appears to have a shorter lower panel: it may well be an early 21” tall slat grill windshield frame that has been modified with the arched extension. The overall height of the standardized windshield frame is 23”.

[Jack Geratic]

Patrice, Ed, and Brian - gentlemen, thank you for your responses and will take in everything into consideration.

For marking sizes, I think it best I wait until the actual model kit is in my hands. This way I can take into account actual measurements, particularly if the model details are not perfectly scaled.

For the maple leaf, I agree it was yellow when painted by hand. From what I understand (or did I misunderstand?) that when these markings became available in water slide decal format, the leaf does not look plain yellow. From the site https://captainstevens.com/military/mv/mvmarkings/

Provided is a post war example:
1_Cdn_Div_decal_Peel__stick.jpg

Followed by a set of wartime period:
WWII-Cdn-Divisional-signs-top-to-bottom-1-2-3-4-5-Divs.jpg

To me, I see a difference between the two examples. Perhaps the WW2 version was not 'metallic gold', but a subdued yellow?

Interestingly, the Canadiansoldiers web site in their Formations study page, there is no mention of yellow, but that gold was chosen for the maple leaf in May of 1940. Of course, when it came to painting, they made do with what they had.


regards,
Jack