42 Willys MB CDN 505

[Eric B]

Hello TJ

All of the CDN contract 505 MB's would have been delivered to the contract specifications, which included the tie down.

The contracts after 242 and 505 did not have the tie down rings.

You can tell if yours was sent overseas as there would have been an additional plate and switches added to the left side of the dash for the axle and brake lights. These were added when the vehicles were assembled in the UK.

If yours does not have those then it would most likely have remained within Canada.

CDN Contact MB's within Canada had the 2 light guards while those overseas had one with the bridge plate over the other.

I have no information on your frame number but note that 1 built 4 days later and one built 12 days earlier were used in BC and were both built on 02 September.

The electric wiper motors will be more of a challenge. Is your tub original? I am unable to see the hole for the electric wire.

There was also the blackout headlight which are now hard to find.

The tire locks are available.

I have attached a few reference photos.

Thanks Eric

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[Eric B]

Hello TJ

I forgot to mention that the 5cwt which had WD number CM4243085 was issued to the British at some point.

We loaned and traded vehicles with them as needed. Those on loan would have retained the C while those traded would have had the C painted over.

This one was part of a large group transferred to the British.

Thanks
Eric

[david moore]

Eric
Did you ever get the number for my 505 jeep? It is 170425. It served in the RCN in Halifax in the war. You might mention that all 505 jeeps, even those that stayed behind, had the extra little TM data plate on the drivers side of the dash - or at least the rivet holes where it should be!
My jeep has the hole for the windshield wiper wire and even the clips for the wire up the windshield frame tube - but sadly no wiper motor.

[Eric B]

Hello David

Yes I do have your SN number, remember I tried to get you to mark it up as RCN. Thanks

Yes lots of other little details as well on the CDN Contracts. Such as both taillights were the same pattern with NO brake-lights. But that would be a safety issue these days.

Thanks
Eric

[TJ Hall]

Thanks for all the good info Eric. Sadly the tub is new so I am still searching for and collecting bits and pieces for the Jeep to truly kit it out with all the CDN contract stuff. Here is a picture of the original data plate. If you have anymore information on this Jeep it would be much appreciated. Would you know what WD hood number this jeep would have had? I might as well redo the hood with the proper number and larger star.

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[Eric B]

Hello TJ

The closest WD number I could find is CM4233328 which was on SN173194

In Canada SN 171224 had DND number 35-804
" 171202 " 61-438

These numbers are not related to the vehicles SN and were not assigned in chronological order pertaining to the vehicles serial number.

There are 2 styles of electric wiper motors. One with 1 power plug while the other has two. Either one will work. The proper one has been debated. There is no doubt the single plug is contract 241/242 but there is a possibility that the 2 plug was used on contract 505 as the 2 parts manuals show different part numbers. These were also used on other vehicles, so you must check the shaft length, the wiper arm attachment style and the voltage.

There are some very nicely restored CDN Contract 242/241 and 505 MB's. They are good for reference points as they were the same other than the data plates and of course the manufacture changes in production.

If you wish to portray a specific units vehicle, which you are. Sometimes you can find WD numbers on their war establishment lists on the Canadian Library and Archives web page. It takes a bit of searching and may not turn up anything.

Thanks
Eric

[Hanno Spoelstra]

This is the same blackout headlight, correct?

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