1 May 2020 Canadian firearms legislation changes

[Perry Kitson]

https://t.co/rili2cI0sc

Above is a link to a petition to have the new firearm ban overturned. Use it or loose it.

Perry

[James P]

Originally Posted by Perry Kitson

https://t.co/rili2cI0sc

Above is a link to a petition to have the new firearm ban overturned. Use it or loose it.

Perry

Done ! And I am sick and tired as all CDN owners are of being held as a political hostage by the Trudeau Liberal regime.

[Lynn Eades]

You guys have to fight with unity, and when you think you've done enough and spent enough money, you need to do some more.
Otherwise your kids and grand kids will not know the freedom you have/ had. It has happened here, but you appear to be leap frogging us. We lacked a consolidated approach several years back.

[rob love]

Originally Posted by Robert Bergeron

We are not leap frogging Lynn , we are pole vaulting all the way to the moon by gosh ! Please fellows , don’t remind the powers to be that they forgot the very dangerous PIAT ( for the uneducated this is irony ) on their infamous list . The cumbersome , heavy and crude projector that helped a famous Canadian hero earn the Victoria Cross !!! Blair’s list . The list of shame . This post will self destruct in 10 minutes .

A PIAT would not meet the definition of a firearm, since it has no barrel. But then again, they can write just about anything on that list. Don't forget that nunchuks and throwing stars are on previous lists. Apparently on the TV series KungFu in the 70s, they were quite deadly in the hands of David Carradine.



Apparently the new list may have inadvertently prohibited most 12 and 10 gauge shotguns because of their bore diameters. They also appear to have banned two websites and a New Brunswick locksmith in their haste to list all the AR rifles. Stay off of AR15.com lest you break the new OIC.

[Ed Storey]

The incoherent and ambiguous fire arms ban brought in late last week was not unexpected by our current Liberal government. The confusion over the latest list was amplified by weak and uniformed reporting by the mainstream media who did little to look into the list and basically parroted what was said by the Prime Minister and Public Safety Minister Blair. Today the Ottawa Citizen published a column which went beyond the Liberal rhetoric and actually looked at some of the omissions, and absurdities of the 1500 ‘Assault Gun’ list. The Citizen even quoted some of the PM’s speaking points such as “all of the firearms included under the ban were designed to kill the largest amount of people in the shortest amount of time” and that “you don’t need an AR-15 to bring down a deer”.

Within the column the Citizen also reported that “the regulations prohibited certain firearms while allowing their competitors – based in foreign countries – to continue selling in Canada” and most likely alluded to the Chinese-made Norinco Type 97, which is not on the list. The column also highlighted just how partisan this whole ban is which panders to the masses of ill-informed voting Canadians who have never handled a firearm or know anything about them and quoted a spokesperson for Minister Blair who said “certain semi-automatic rifles were not included in the ban because they did not meet certain thresholds – primarily that they are not considered to be of “modern design” and not present in large volumes in the Canadian market”.

The balance of the current Liberal minority government’s power is based within urban Canada and specifically the GTA where gun crime is a hot button topic. As well, since most Canadians have no knowledge of weapons and even if the average person were inclined to look at the list, it is doubtful that he or she would be able to distinguish the difference between an American Tactical Imports Omni (even I had to look that one up) or a Recoilless Rifle M40A1. So based on a lack of accurate information from the government and little personal knowledge of firearms getting the average voter to not support this ban is perhaps wishful thinking.

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Ed Storey

So based on a lack of accurate information from the government and little personal knowledge of firearms getting the average voter to not support this ban is perhaps wishful thinking.

The government absolutely knows this and is counting on it. All part of the plan I'm afraid. Sneaking in Boys rifle and vintage mortar bans was just opportunistic and may have been an insurance policy against criticism if it ever got too loud. All they'd have so say is "who needs a howitzer?" No amount of argument that they are historical, old, carefully and expensively restored, honour our war effort and soldiers and have been safely owned for multiple decades would do any good swaying the average urbanite's feelings.

Interesting, the minister pushing this (I shan't name him, you know who he is if you're from around here) was questioned yesterday why certain 'assault rifles' were banned when others weren't. His answer was something like "the ones not banned are older technology and are very few in Canada". Well ho-lee. If Boys rifles and 17 pounders don't fit that exactly I don't know what does. So why are they included in the ban?

[chris vickery]

Is it possible that the order was written in such a way that at face value it appears to be taking action but in reality it is so full of holes it won’t hold water?
Was it purposely written in such a convoluted manner that the door was left open to challenge the government on it?
With the inclusion of 10 and 12 gauge shotguns for example, whether by design or purposely, this has given lobbyists on our behalf at least some technicality to fight them with, or at the very least rile up all shooting sports enthusiasts.
I hope, that with the wording, perhaps having to be re-written, some items may be dropped.
Is an OIC a hard fast and permanent thing or can it be amended under Canadian Law?

[Lynn Eades]

Over here a large tax company spent a whole 5 hours NOT listening to a few govt. selected notable firearms people to put together valuations for the whole gambit of firearms for the thing called "a buyback".