Sherman Crab T147955 “Avalon” Overloon. Regiment? Damage?

[MicS]

Originally Posted by kevinT

Hi Michel,

Thanks for these I have added to and cross checked against my census number database and found a couple of things.

I had T212594 as belonging to 22 Dragoons turret No. 47 via Vanguard To Victory by David Fletcher (details must have been forwarded to me as i do not have this book).

T147892 appears in a 27th Armd Brg workshops return ( sent to me by Tom O'Brien on WW2Talk)

Cheers

Kevin

T212594 indeed appears on page 25 of David Fletcher's book, but it not attributed to 22 Dragoons, nor does it seem to wear any turret number. I assume it was photographed during tests and may not have been attached to any of the three flails regiments yet:
Crab T212594 - Vanguard of Victory p25.jpg

This turret No.47 might be the result of a confusion with IWM B5141, showing Cpl Barton's Crab No.47 of 1 Tp of B Sqn Westminster Dragoons on JIG GREEN West. I do not know of any other photo of this Crab which shows its Reg. No.:
IWM B 5141.jpg
© IWM (B 5141)

Michel

[Alex van de Wetering]

T212594 indeed appears on page 25 of David Fletcher's book, but it not attributed to 22 Dragoons, nor does it seem to wear any turret number. I assume it was photographed during tests and may not have been attached to any of the three flails regiments yet:
Attachment 116644

I agree....plenty of Crab pictures in the book and some seemingly of the same one, but just like Michel I can't see any turret numbers, nor an AoS.
T212594 also appears in the IWM film IWM A70 5-1. It looks like the picture that Michel posted from David Fletchers book is taken the same day, during the same trial.

T212594 Trial.jpg T212594 Trial-2.jpg

https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/i...ect/1060019366

[Maurice Donckers]

At home I have a book with 2 IWM pictures taken in Overloon during the battle , these are also M4A4`s , one has a black T number , to me it looks as if they are also command tanks from the 79th , any ideas if they are together with Avalon?

here is one of the pictures

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[MicS]

Originally Posted by Maurice Donckers

At home I have a book with 2 IWM pictures taken in Overloon during the battle , these are also M4A4`s , one has a black T number , to me it looks as if they are also command tanks from the 79th , any ideas if they are together with Avalon?

here is one of the pictures

Attachment 116647

This is IWM B10820, showing Sherman V T147839 (or maybe T147639) of the Westminster Dragoons, probably of HQ 'A' Sqn. The T-number is apparently still in its original dark blue colour as painted before shipment from the USA:

© IWM (B 10820)

One more photo of another HQ tank of the Westminster Dragoons in Overloon:

© IWM (B 10819)

plus a Crab (not AVALON, because of the different gun mantlet):

© IWM (B 10818)

Michel