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17-10-20, 06:03
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Welcome to the Green (OD) Asylum......
Quick get a trailer and get it home...... you only need to find a couple more for parts.
What part of Ontario Doug??? Lots of people on the forum to help you out...... Hope to see more of you and the truck...... If you decided to get the Ford Artillery Tractor you will need to learn the words to the old song...." Rolly Polly Mama's little FATty............. Cheers
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Bob Carriere....B.T.B C15a Cab 11 Hammond, Ontario Canada 
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17-10-20, 06:11
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The common killer of artillery tractors was that winch. Post service, it was in just the right place to make a tow truck. The turtle back was thrown off, and the jib was usually welded directly onto the frame rails, ensuring that the frame would get so twisted and bent up, with the ensuing cracks, fish plating, and more cracks, that the rails would be beyond restoration.
I have an artillery tractor project waiting in the wings now. The 15 cwt frame is identical, so will be the donor to make the artillery tractor whole again. And, thankfully, it is a Ford. 
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17-10-20, 06:54
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Fuel tank brackets look to be the correct type for 20 Gal tanks, opposed to the regular 12 Gal.
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18-10-20, 02:47
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Thanks everyone for the thoughts.
It does have the large front axle and yes I did drag this home, to Niagara. The pigtail is bolted... The short shaft from tcase to winch brake drum is maybe 6" or so. Cant tell yet about fab work until I get it cleaned up abit. If there was a coupling would it have been bolted directly to the drum? There is only about 4" or so before the crossmember and it would produce a very sharp angle. Or was that how they were. This had two 6 ft long pieces of railway track welded on top of the rails ontop of everything else to try to hold it together! I will be looking for a frame for sure and move the crossmembers if needed. If anybody has any thoughts or possible leads that'd be a big help. Good to know the 15cwt are the same! Theres also an upper support bar(1" tubing?) with corner gussets up the back corners and across the roof back inside the cab. Is this something that was inside FAT cabs for stiffening, or added later? Seems to be made well. Added a few more photos, maybe something else will jump out. Thanks again, really appreciate all your knowledge.
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#5
18-10-20, 04:27
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The Ford manual gives different part numbers for the 15cwt frame rails vs the artillery tractor, but looking at the two different frames here in the yard, I'll be darned if I can tell what the difference is. Pretty much all the holes required for the artillery tractor including the winch mounting are already present on the 15cwt frame.
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18-10-20, 14:36
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Thanks Rob for checking, no reference material at this end yet. Starting to look like it is or was at one time a FAT. So going ahead with the Ford project. Frame hunting season begins....
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#7
18-10-20, 16:31
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The lip around the cab where the turtle shell meets the cab is the easy indicator that it was. But be aware that to complete the tractor, you will have to find a 25 pounder, then a limber, then all the tools that go with that. Trust me, it will be a very time and cash consuming project. Add to that you will need 6 dewat Enfields for the rifle racks.
It always amazes me at the condition of vehicles that the collectors in the East starts with. That level of rust through on sheet metal would normally condemn a vehicle in this part of the country. If you like, I can keep an eye for a frame for you. They exist in nice shape out this way, although too often on a kijiji ad the sellers think they have gold.
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