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Old 01-11-20, 09:58
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Major Ralph Bagnold, pre-war desert explorer and creator of the LRDG, used condenser cans on the side of the truck to recycle steam/ boiling water. Copied on SAS jeeps and incorporated into later designs of military and postwar civilian vehicles.
Lovely photos of the gauges, thank you for posting them.
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Old 02-11-20, 22:48
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Default Precious info in one place.....

Thanks Charles for the clear distinction of the round versus flat gauges.

I have a 1940 Chev 1 ton with the rectangular gauge cluster ..... and Philippe J. has a 1939 Chev one ton with round gauges..... ........ not sure if his instrument cluster is on a flat panel or a curved dash.

Philippe can you shed some light.

According to what I have read Major B. had access to 38 or 39 seperate vehicles some unsold from dealers some from GM...... From the pictures I have seen of the early handmade conversions, the curved windshield was cut at about 8 inches and the remaining post used to mount various machine guns........ I assumed that the good Major converted some flat dash models and some curved dash models to suit is needs.....and some were short wheel based of possible 3/4 ton ratings......

However, I think it is safe to assume that all Windsor LRDG produced had the flat dash/cowl with the square windshield frame......... I have never seen a factory picture of the Canadian Made LRDG with a factory made water condensation can. By the way GM did sell, at the dealership, a skinny water condensation can, grey in color, to be mounted on the firewall under the hood....may have started in the late 1937 era. They do come up on Ebay at nearly $400 when NOS.......

Have you seen the article in a EU magazine, about 5 years ago, about the trial and tribulation of a French collector who built an early LRDG from parts of 3 or 4 other Chevs of the period.....? very worth while reading.....

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Water was such a rare commodity that the true LRDG troops never shaved (or washed ) and dressed very differently for the occasion....unless back in Cairo where proper military dress and clean face was the "rigueur".......
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Old 05-11-20, 04:51
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My Updated LRDG 1533X2 dash information page.
Thank you everyone for helping out with the outstanding information. Nice to have all the information on one page.

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Default Chevrolet 1533X2 30cwt LRDG truck mini articles

Those are the exact gauges on my 39 (1.5 ton) Chevrolet truck... The instrument panel is flat... Is that considered a (FFC) or flat face cowl?

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Old 19-11-20, 06:58
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Hi Philippe, Your truck doesn't have a Flat face Cowl. It has a cab with a split window windscreen which is angled, not flat. The FFC was designed so that buyers could fit their own cab, or not. The front frame of the door is angled forward, whereas a FFC would be vertical. Hope that helps.
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Old 19-11-20, 08:03
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The LRDG truck in the Imperial War Museum has the later style gauges in a rounded dash.

Regards Rick.

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Old 19-11-20, 08:10
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Default Flat face cowl

As can be seen in the Chevrolet catalogue “Flat face” means the vertical part of the cowl is flat with A-pillars being perpendicular to the chassis. This gave body builders all the freedom they needed to build bespoke cabs and bodies. So it doesn’t refer to the cowl vent area to be flat (alone).

So the buyer ordered a chassis/cowl and then contracted a body builder. Especially in Asia even today truck builders still make chassis/cowls, for outside contractors to build a body.
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Old 19-11-20, 14:37
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Default Flat face cowl

This screenshot is from the GM heritage site. It’s from the 1950 Chevrolet manual and it shows the flat face cowl and a windshield cowl, just to add more confusion to this thread! I hadn’t heard of, or seen a “windshield “ cowl.

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