Wireless Set No. 52 Canadian - Project

[David Dunlop]

Hello Bruce.

Now that is nicely in the middle isn’t it. Good to know one has survived. If you get a chance, can you post some photos? It will give me something to think about during the next phase in the Reno.

Chris.

If you are pulling night shifts again, don’t stay up too late with this stuff.

David

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Here you go...

[Chris Suslowicz]

Originally Posted by Bruce Parker

Here you go...

Ah, what do the ends look like, please?

The exact length would help (for possible forgery purposes) too.

(Not that I have a WS52 nor am I likely to get one!)



Best regards,
Chris.

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Chris Suslowicz

Ah, what do the ends look like, please?

The exact length would help (for possible forgery purposes) too.

(Not that I have a WS52 nor am I likely to get one!)



Best regards,
Chris.

Metal ends are 1/2" at 5/16" diameter and 9/16" at 1/8" diameter (1-1/16" total, and both ends are the same). Cable is 1/4" diameter 23-3/8" long between the backs of the metal end plugs, so overall cable length tip to metal tip is 23-3/8" plus 1-1/16" plus the other 1-1/16" or 25-1/2" tip to tip.

[David Dunlop]

Fantastic Pictures, Bruce. Thanks for posting with the specs!

Beats me what the original material was the ID Sleeve s fabricated from. It certainly does not look like the typical woven fabric, resin impregnated stuff one usually sees. The Sleeve you have looks very smooth with a consistent solid colour throughout it.

The only cables I have on hand with yellow ID Sleeves that still have a look and feel of rubber or soft 'plastic' are on a pair of CPP-2 output cables and a late issue 19-Set Black Rubber 12-Pin Connector Cable from Set to Control Box.

A 19-Set 3-Lead Battery Cable on Hand has one single cable yellow sleeve and a double wide yellow sleeve on it where the material is hard and 'plastic' feeling.

Two other yellow ID Sleeves are on the Headgear Type 10's I plan to use with the 52-Set eventually, Photo attached. They are 1.25 inches in length, just slide up and down the cable are still pliable but feel more to the 'plastic side of things than rubber.

I think I need to do some more thinking now.

Cheers for now,

David

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Dave, it's a rubber or synthetic rubber. Pretty soft, slightly mottled and with a joint molded seam throughout its length. I'd almost suggest modern coax cable although it would be a little too hard and not as flexible. The tag is smooth, glossy, plasticky and brown exterior and underneath. Whether it was originally yellow and faded (more GD tobacco?) I'd need a time machine to confirm.

[Chris Suslowicz]

Originally Posted by David Dunlop

Fantastic Pictures, Bruce. Thanks for posting with the specs!

Beats me what the original material was the ID Sleeve s fabricated from. It certainly does not look like the typical woven fabric, resin impregnated stuff one usually sees. The Sleeve you have looks very smooth with a consistent solid colour throughout it.

The only cables I have on hand with yellow ID Sleeves that still have a look and feel of rubber or soft 'plastic' are on a pair of CPP-2 output cables and a late issue 19-Set Black Rubber 12-Pin Connector Cable from Set to Control Box.

A 19-Set 3-Lead Battery Cable on Hand has one single cable yellow sleeve and a double wide yellow sleeve on it where the material is hard and 'plastic' feeling.

Two other yellow ID Sleeves are on the Headgear Type 10's I plan to use with the 52-Set eventually, Photo attached. They are 1.25 inches in length, just slide up and down the cable are still pliable but feel more to the 'plastic side of things than rubber.


David

The current (1980-onwards) cable ID sleeves are pre-printed plastic, non heat-shrink and slipped on (I think).

Larkspur-era were rubber of some (Hellerman) type, probably going back to the 1940s or 1950s.

WW2 version were the pre-printed cambric (Giant Systoflex) varnish impregnated to render it water/rot-proof. Later versions appear to be paper (for cheapness) and various other thin plastic tubing/sleeving, or stamped and paint-filled metal tags (as with the ZA.3141/2/3 WS19 aerial coax feeders)

I will, at some unspecified point in the future (Do Not Ask!) finally manage to hit the Post Office when there is no queue out of the door. At that point (assuming mail to Canada is working) I'll mail you some goodies: chain-link insulators, a length of P11 cable, and an assortment of sleeving. (If I actually have a spare sleeving tool, you'll get that and a small bottle of Hellerine lubricant so you can roll your own.)

Bear in mind I have not been to the Post Office since before Christmas, and I will need to fill out customs forms for just about everything.

Best regards,
Chris.

[Chris Suslowicz]

Originally Posted by Bruce Parker

Metal ends are 1/2" at 5/16" diameter and 9/16" at 1/8" diameter (1-1/16" total, and both ends are the same). Cable is 1/4" diameter 23-3/8" long between the backs of the metal end plugs, so overall cable length tip to metal tip is 23-3/8" plus 1-1/16" plus the other 1-1/16" or 25-1/2" tip to tip.

Aha! those metal tips are virtually identical to the ones on the Aerials, Dummy, No.2 & No.3 lead set, apart from those having black rubber sleeves over the cable to tip junction. (They fit into the slotted screw terminals as used on field telephones D Mk. V, L, J, F, etc. so were presumably a standard item.)

I can't break up the cable set I have (6 different leads, 2 with the screw-on spade connectors and 4 with different sizes of plug pin to simulate Aerial Rods B, and F, I think), but if I can get any more of the tips I will see about making a cable or two up. The lead is the standard Cable, Electric, P11 used all over the place for aerial feeder - usually black rubber covered.

Best regards,
Chris.