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Old 17-09-21, 15:58
Grant Bowker Grant Bowker is offline
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Thank you Hanno,
The photo above is the clearest picture I have ever seen of the mechanism used to support the folding sides of the CMP 15 cwt trailer. When you were researching the servicing trailer, did you notice any other photos showing the support rods and mechanism?
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Old 19-09-21, 09:21
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Hello Grant,

There are not many pictures or other details available of this type of trailer, let alone clear ones like the one in the Dutch Defense image bank.

The mechanism seems to be a J-shape track that guides a stay to keep the sides at 90-deg. or vertical.

Maybe Rolf still has his trailer and could share some detail pics?

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Old 19-09-21, 11:37
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Thank you. I agree with what you say, with additions: The J tracks have two positions to hold the sides (called flare boards in the AEDB record - I've no idea whether this indicates they are always flared or if they get up to vertical) horizontal and at an intermediate position before reaching vertical (or nearly so). The support rods look like they are probably round (makes sense as they would be equally likely to buckle in any direction under an axial load) I have no idea whether tube or solid bar. Tube would be lighter for the same strength, but weight never seems to have been a worry in CMP construction. There appear to be flat sections at the end of the supports for pivots to pass through. On the remains of the original body work on my trailer, the lower pivots are threaded and drilled for a cotter pin (the sides must have been removed a long time ago as all of the holes are clear - no rusted remains of cotter pins in any hole). In your photos, the upper ends of the rod appear to have a cross pin (not sure if bent or welded on) that must be threaded as there look to be wing nuts to keep it in place in the J slots.
That's about all I can draw from the pictures, I may have to make a mock-up to try to figure out the geometry of the bars and J slots. On first appearances, I'm not sure whether a straight bar with the cross pivots on its centerline would clear the reinforcements at the join between body and flare board if the flare board is truly vertical - another reason to make tha mock-up.
The pictures in the manual for the trailer are much lower quality than what you provided but they do all seem to generally agree.
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Old 19-09-21, 12:17
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The two left hand photos in post #10 show the sides at about 45 degrees and with a tilt fitted over them. That must be with the stays hooked into the intermediate position, with the two extremes giving horizontal and vertical. I think that the bars would clear the top rail of the fixed sides as the J slots are some distance out from the outside face of the flare board.

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