Is this making anyone else nervous?

[maple_leaf_eh]

I heard that too.

Being told I have to change and being offered a suitable alternative are two different things.

[Harry Moon]

...or at least enough people to steer away from the rocks.

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

There is this option. It may be the solution that finally gets Fords to start when you want them to.

h t t p s://news.yahoo.com/goal-convert-classical-cars-electric-141415215.html

CBS News Videos
The goal to convert classical cars into electric cars
Sat, November 13, 2021, 9:14 AM
While some drivers are ready to go electric, they still want to hang on to their classic cars. That's where one mechanic in London is ready to help and bring classical cars into the 21st century. Ian Lee has the story.

[maple_leaf_eh]

I had about 12 minutes of Youtube this morning of an Ariel Atom (?) doing the fastest lap of that day's cars at Nurburingen. An F1 car with no body and all horsepower.

It is hard to imagine a less necessary activity than driving a road course really really fast, except to remember that these tiny automotive shops come up with the most incredible engineering advances. Maybe someone will design a pair of fuel cells or batteries that will replace the side sponson fuel tanks on a Sherman and an engine powerful enough to get an M4 up and moving. Until that time, I respectfully want to preserve my historic military vehicles as well as possible as examples of, oh look at that trick.

[rob love]

The problem with putting electric motors to replace a Ford flathead is that the Ford's are so quiet with the flathead, you will certainly notice the loud noise of the electric motor. Not sure the electric motors will be as smooth either.



The CMP suspensions will certainly have no problem holding all the batteries necessary for electric.

[maple_leaf_eh]

We are all talking about starting, driving, stopping and otherwise demonstrating our vehicles. I mentioned fuel cells and new motors in a Sherman as a for instance. Rob mentions suspension capacity in a CMP for a battery pack.

We know that certain vehicles of the past have our attention, for storage or agility. Carriers, Jeeps, scout cars, Land Rovers, and 3/4-ton class movers have more curb appeal than a 5-ton with a huge cubic inch straight six. Those large more ponderous heavy hauling vehicles get less and less love even today because of the cost of ownership versus our enjoyment as hobbyists.

I suspect that gradually more of our HMVs, especially the thirstiest ones will simply get parked, stored and less and less well seen. As the new religion takes hold, those of us unable/unwilling to adapt will be singled out as nonconformists, or worse nonbelievers. Will we still be able to demonstrate our form of history in two decades?

[rob love]

Originally Posted by maple_leaf_eh

... especially the thirstiest ones will simply get parked, stored and less and less well seen. As the new religion takes hold, those of us unable/unwilling to adapt will be singled out as nonconformists, or worse nonbelievers.

They will simply attach the desire to use carbon fuel with the demise of humankind, and punish the non-conformity by rescinding our covid vaccine passports (which by then will have to be updated every 6 months to be valid).



There is a saying that change is constant, and to embrace it. Not for me thanks....

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

So Canada and our stoopendously magnificent Liberal government has upped the date for conversion to electric vehicles to 2035. It follows that if 100% of vehicles are electric you won't have a gas station on every corner from which you can buy gasoline to power your antique or classic gas-engined baby. And even if there remains a niche market to distill gas it most surely will be engine wrecking ethanol blend at about $50 bucks per litre (plus carbon tax).

Follow up question is what happens to all those antique restored vehicles that you can't get or afford gas for. I expect without the ability to drive them most owners will have little incentive to keep them. Museums may take a few but the rest will become expensive garage fillers.

h t t p s://www.cbc.ca/news/science/electric-vehicle-charging-stations-1.6293915

Canada is mandating EV sales — 50 per cent of new cars sold in 2030 must be emissions-free, growing to 100 per cent in 2035 — but nobody is taking the lead to make sure people know what that means in terms of how much electricity, or how many charging stations, will be needed, said Kingston.

[chris vickery]

Bruce
I feel that the Liberals initiatives are simply political posturing, a feel good, look at us type of thing.
As I work in the power utilities world, this topic comes up within the circles of my peers.
What the asshats in government aren’t saying is how exactly they plan on implementing such measures without the infrastructure to support the plan.
For example, Ontario’s power grid is insuffiently equipped to supply a sudden influx of EVs.
Just consider any average neighbourhood in your town. Imagine each and every home having to install and use at least one 50A circuit for a charger…
The requirements for the Province will be astronomical. EV technology isn’t even close to where it needs to be. In a country as vast as Canada, where transportation is a need, more so than a want, a vehicle that only has limited range is almost useless outside of urban centres.
If the “plan” really is a “plan”, we in the electrical business haven’t even seen, nor heard of any intended upgrades or new construction projects. It takes at least 10 years to build a new generating station, not to mention upgrades to existing infrastructure. To even begin to make any of this a reality, shovels need to go into the ground tomorrow…
I have recently seen that Ford is offering up E crate engines. The antique vehicle community is already talking.
As for myself, I think that I am finished with acquiring vehicles and will concentrate my efforts into other areas of collecting.
At least my mule fleet is off road use, no issues with government licensing and the little bit of avgas they can run on should continue for a while…Maybe need to look into a still lol.

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Originally Posted by chris vickery

What the asshats in government aren’t saying is how exactly they plan on implementing such measures without the infrastructure to support the plan.

Agreed, they are very quiet on the 'how'. But two things come to mind. Whatever they put in place I am certain won't take the needs of rural people into account ("so why can't they all use electric public transit to get to the Starbucks" say the urbanites?). Second, and more disturbing, is the plan they may have includes limiting your ability to work where you want (commute), live where you want (high density is way more efficient), travel and vacation where you want (WAY too carbon intensive), heat your house or feed your kids (that's what foodbanks and school breakfast programs are for) and various other hits to your standard of living. No matter however, with inflation and taxation to pay down the massive debt it's not like you'll have anything left to afford those 'luxuries'.