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Old 23-12-21, 23:13
Bruce Parker (RIP) Bruce Parker (RIP) is offline
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Just stop, the pair of you.
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Old 18-01-22, 14:53
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As so by incremental little steps we are headed down this path:

(yes it's the left coast which tends to be wonkier than the rest of us...at first...)

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/us/in...?ocid=msedgntp

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Inside the first town in America to ban gas stations
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Walking down Washington Street, one of the main thoroughfares in the city of Petaluma, about 40 miles north of San Francisco, you could be almost anywhere in California. There are all the usual fast food chains, a smattering of Mexican restaurants, a few incongruous palm trees, and wide suburban streets.

If you zoom out from Washington Street, there’s also the fact that, like everywhere else in America, the climate crisis is rapidly changing Petaluma. The city is facing a water emergency, part of California’s fourth drought in the last 20 years. In the last seven years, its home of Sonoma County has experienced five of the 13 most destructive wildfires in state history.

Unlike most places in California, however, Petaluma has taken an unprecedented, if modest, step to combatting this reality: last March, it became the first city in the US to ban construction of new gas stations and pumps.
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Old 19-01-22, 05:47
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Good luck to them then finding the carbon neutral fire fighting gear needed for the next fire. Let me think Fire tenders = Diesel, Portable pumps = Petrol? Helicopters and Aeroplanes = Kero. Maybe they do all this stuff with electric motors now and maybe I'm just out of touch? Is there a world full of old guys who just slink back into their sheds and give a single finger wave as they close the door?
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Old 19-01-22, 05:50
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Chris V., the difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth, is about 3 to 6 months.
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Old 19-01-22, 13:44
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Good luck to them then finding the carbon neutral fire fighting gear needed for the next fire. Let me think Fire tenders = Diesel, Portable pumps = Petrol? Helicopters and Aeroplanes = Kero. Maybe they do all this stuff with electric motors now and maybe I'm just out of touch? Is there a world full of old guys who just slink back into their sheds and give a single finger wave as they close the door?
I spoken with people (uninformed self-centred zealots actually) in our largest city Toronto who honestly believe the mere sight of a drop of oil is enough to poison you. And yes, absolutely, we can convert to electric cars, transport trucks, aircraft and construction equipment by tomorrow noon at the latest. In fact we must or die. Yet nothing must get in the way of their lavish supply of imported fresh fruit and lattes, all inclusive vacations to the Caribbean in the winter nor their exotically furnished and well heated condominiums.

When I say I've spoken to them is a bit of a stretch. They did all the 'spoken' to me and I risked my life countering even the smallest point with reality.
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