Armour Dreams

[Jonathan Moore]

Tim,
I have to ask where did you get those, are they in reprint? I would love a copy of both of those.

Chase,

I have found getting any specific documentation, apart from published books, impossible but I suppose someone somewhere will have it and It will probably come to light after I have finished. I have bought every book that I can find on the Panzer II but most of them hold very little reliable information and a lot of them can be very misleading. The best books that I have found are the "Panzer tract" books and the "AFV super detail photo books", there is also an excellent cd Called German Tank Interiors. The hardest part is finding pictures of tanks that haven't been restored, some restorations are very suspect regarding their accuracy, especially the interiors.
I have contacted the Tank Museum and they kindly forwarded me some interior pictures but most of these are available in the AFV super detail book, Other than that they didn't appear to have much.
My wife finds me staring at pictures trying to work out how, why and where but I am always amazed at how much detail a good clear photo contains, most of the time it just needs to be interpreted correctly.

Dimension wise, the best bet is to find one to measure and failing that, find the best pictures and scale them but as I have found check, check and check again.

I have spent many hours trawling the internet, most of which has been wasted time but some times I have found some thing of interest.

I hope that helps.

Jon

[ChaseR83]

Originally Posted by Jonathan Moore

Tim,
I have to ask where did you get those, are they in reprint? I would love a copy of both of those.

I too, would love to know if reprints are available. The Panzer III is on my short list of tanks to research.

[ChaseR83]

Originally Posted by Jonathan Moore

Chase,

I have found getting any specific documentation, apart from published books, impossible but I suppose someone somewhere will have it and It will probably come to light after I have finished. I have bought every book that I can find on the Panzer II but most of them hold very little reliable information and a lot of them can be very misleading. The best books that I have found are the "Panzer tract" books and the "AFV super detail photo books", there is also an excellent cd Called German Tank Interiors. The hardest part is finding pictures of tanks that haven't been restored, some restorations are very suspect regarding their accuracy, especially the interiors.
I have contacted the Tank Museum and they kindly forwarded me some interior pictures but most of these are available in the AFV super detail book, Other than that they didn't appear to have much.
My wife finds me staring at pictures trying to work out how, why and where but I am always amazed at how much detail a good clear photo contains, most of the time it just needs to be interpreted correctly.

Dimension wise, the best bet is to find one to measure and failing that, find the best pictures and scale them but as I have found check, check and check again.

I have spent many hours trawling the internet, most of which has been wasted time but some times I have found some thing of interest.

I hope that helps.

Jon

Jon,

Thank you for the reply. I have the added difficulty of being in the US.... which often means "in-person" research is very difficult on tanks with few survivors. I'd love to visit Bovington or Samur.... but it would be quite an undertaking... and I don't think they would allow some nutter from across the pond crawl around inside their exhibits to take pictures.

I've gathered some excellent info on several British and French tanks... but for now all is far too incomplete to start a replica attempt.

If you are still looking for documentation for your build... I have a book that lists the locations of surviving German manuals by archive. I can forward the locations for various Panzer 2 manuals... but they appear to be incomplete as German manuals are divided up by hull, superstructure and turret, etc.

[Tim Bell]

Originally Posted by Jonathan Moore

Tim,
I have to ask where did you get those, are they in reprint? I would love a copy of both of those.

Jon

Found them with an online book dealer in the USA some time ago... very interesting... ironic that they have far more detail than the British manuals produced for the Firefly.

I did a limited reprint of the Pz3 books, but have not bothered with the Pz4 ones because one of the recipients of the Pz3 books constantly hassled me about some reprint "errors" for over 6 months afterwards.

The print company got some pages in the wrong order when binding and had to slightly photo-reduce pages to fit A4 (original is letter size).

If you are happy to accept these slight differences, I can consider getting more reprinted. No doubt we can the page order error fixed, but I can do nothing for the photo-reduction challenge.

Are you interested in just the Pz3 ones, or Pz3 and Pz4.

If anyone else is interested in any, please let me know - I will do another print run for MLU members.

Let me know

Tim

[Jonathan Moore]

Tim,
I would definitely be interested in both, errors or not.


Chase,

I have never had any bother taking pictures at Bovington as long as you don't climb on the tanks and as always it polite just to ask first.

If you could forward me the location of any PZ2 archived documentation I would really appreciate it

Regards,

Jonathan

[ChaseR83]

Originally Posted by Jonathan Moore

Tim,

If you could forward me the location of any PZ2 archived documentation I would really appreciate it
Regards,

Jonathan

PM Sent

[ChaseR83]

Originally Posted by Tim Bell

If anyone else is interested in any, please let me know - I will do another print run for MLU members.

Tim

I would be willing to purchase copies of both the Panzer III and IV manuals.

PM sent

[Jonathan Moore]

Evening All,

Today I achieved what to me seems a major mile stone, the assembly of the running gear onto the chassis and everything lines up, thank goodness.

That's all folks.

Jon

[Ganmain Tony]

Wonderful!!

Simply... Wonderful!!

Post 85 shows a picture of the tracks on a Panzer 2. So at least something to copy does exist.

Are any of the museums likely able to help you out Jon? Are there any collectors who may lean towards being benevolent and at least loan you a few 'Cleats'.???

Perhaps there is something that matches on a Komatsu??

Really hope a simple, cheap solution presents itself Jon.

[Dave Newcomb]

This is called a log skidder with 5 boggy wheels, tracks and lots of them mfgr'd
Looks similar. chance that some equipment tracks might fit-wordwide search? Dave in Oregon USA

[Jonathan Moore]

Thanks Tony and Dave,

I have spent many hours searching on the net for a set of suitable commercially available tracks but thus far no luck. The cost of having a set cast was around £30,000 once everything had been taken into account, I have no idea what that would be in the current climate but it will be well above my budget. To be honest I haven't tried asking for help and wouldn't, I have seen too many people start projects hoping that someone else will fund it and that isn't me. Saying that, if someone were to offer me a set I wouldn't refuse. I will find a solution in the fullness of time and if that means that it only drives from the workshop to it's new home on the set that I intend to fabricate, then so be it. Building it to completion will give me enough satisfaction.

Jon