Question for Rob Love......

[rob love]

Canada did use the M800 series of 5 ton, but without even looking at them I can just about guarantee that the 5 ton tie rod ends will be obscenely large. The 5 tons were just a M35 2-1.2 ton on steroids.



I can take a quick look today at work and compare the tie rods on our 5 ton wrecker (M-62) with the tie rods on some of the CMPs.



I have, in the past, also rebuilt a rod end by gutting a similar tie rod and moving all the internal components to the worn tie rod. The work was sound, but did require a couple of spot welds to hold the bottom washer onto the tie rod to close it all up. But this was in a wartime situation....not sure I would do it as a day to day repair.

[Bob Carriere]

Hi Rob

Got a prompt reply from Eastern Surplus...... inventory all packed away so no time to take thread measurements...... and if they ever fit they are expensive!!!

Can the NATO numbers be traced to specs....as in taper measurement, thread tpi and diameter...?

Going to hunt at Moog parts manufacture but need to take one apart for exact measurements.

But the snow comes first.

Bob C.

[rob love]

2530-00-211-6111 (this and the other number you listed were used on the old gas 5 tons (M39, M40, M62 etc) from the 50s as well).

tapered bearing surface major diameter 1.249 inches minimum and 1.251 inches maximum

taper length 1.813 inches nominal

rod connecting end thread location internal
rod connecting end thread size 1-1/2 -12
rod connecting end thread series designator unf
rod connecting end thread direction right-hand
rod connecting end thread length 3.813 inches nominal
locking clamp type integral

When I check a nearby CMP I get a tie rod thread of 1-1/4, a maxh shank dia of 1" and a length of 1.5" for the shank length. Not a match.

I wonder if the front tie rods are more a marmon Herrington or Timken axle thing, since those were the designers of the four wheel drive axles used.
Another good place to check is find someone who will loan you a merritor catalogue. They have lots of photos and measurements.

[Robert Bergeron]

I am looking for tie rod ends also . So i will be following this thread closely.

[rob love]

I had a quick look at some merritor ends and here is an example. Unfortunately it does not give the sizes: https://www.pillarsurplus.com/ROCKWE...-p/l010194.htm

[Bob Carriere]

Thanks Rob.....

Tomorrow is measurement day in the barn....

[rob love]

I had a look at the tie rod ends for the m-37 dodge as it is a similar design and readily available. Unfortunately the threads are only 1"unf.