Clip, Rifle, Double - Dimensions

[Jakko Westerbeke]

Is it critical to get the dimensions absolutely correct?

Because if you don’t mind that it’s slightly off, that photo is good enough to measure in and work out a good approximation of the real size if you have dimensions of the plate it’s mounted on.

Using the measuring tool in Photoshop, the height of the bracket is 48 pixels while the height of plate (at the left edge of the bracket) is 237 pixels. Similarly, the width of the bracket is 91.6 pixels and the plate width is 267.5. The depth of the clip seems to be about the same as the width of the plate alongside it.

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If you measure up the real plate where the white and blue arrows are (that’s especially important for the white one), you can work out the approximate size of the clip easily enough.

[Skip Inge]

Jakko, I usually use photos and calipers to approximate the size of items that I need to fabricate. I do not have Photoshop and if I did I wasn’t aware that it had a measuring tool built in. This is exactly why I ask questions for items that I am unsure about. The assistance and experience of the members of MLU always offer a perspective that I had not considered. Thank you! I appreciate your measurements and for sharing how you did it!

[Jakko Westerbeke]

Glad it helps You can do the same by holding a ruler up to your screen, of course, but if you know that a graphics program has a built-in ruler tool, that’s generally more convenient to use.

And because I was curious, I checked the documentation for GIMP, which is a Photoshop-like program but entirely free. As I suspected, it also has a measuring tool.

[Skip Inge]

Outstanding! Thank you!

[derk derin]

I would like to know what was intended to be stowed in that tray? It doesn’t look like it was designed to simply distance the clips away from the armoured radiator cover. There must have been something that was stowed in that tray by the looks of the design.
Interested to hear if anybody knows if there was in fact something there and what?
Regards,Derk

[Ron Pier]

According to the OP it's for the barrel ends of two 303 rifles. But it looks more like the but ends to me. I'd also be interested to see how the rifles are stowed there. Ron

[Jakko Westerbeke]

The muzzles go into the forked end closest to the camera. The webbing strap is unbuckled, the muzzles are placed into the clip, and the webbing re-attached.

Finding a photograph that shows this is proving difficult, though.

[Michael R.]

Originally Posted by Ron Pier

According to the OP it's for the barrel ends of two 303 rifles. But it looks more like the but ends to me. I'd also be interested to see how the rifles are stowed there. Ron

I believe we will see the early stowage plans show it was designed and produced for one service rifle, near side, and one Bren gun. The width of the upper and lower brackets are correctly sized to accommodate the larger Bren closest to the engine, plus the butt holder is cut away to allow clearance for the Bren sling swivel attaching point on the side of the MK-I series Bren gun.

The early version of the top bracket used composite material with a “nipple through strap hole” system. While the existing nipple was retained, an update replaced the strap system with web and buckle. The side plates for the web strap system were designed to allow the original existing nipple to remain in place, the strap mounting plate was punched out to fit around the nipple.