Sherman IC T-269916

[Maurice Donckers]

but Tim, it wasn't in class 1 condition when I found it. It will be on its first outing in 2 weeks , for the liberation of the south over here 80 years ago , a few small interior bits are still missing , but it is 98 % complete again.

[Maurice Donckers]

And Jakko , there are several period pictures where the fireflies have a name on the rear of the turret .
I have a picture here from in geleen , and the whole parked column has a name on the back

[Tim Bell]

Originally Posted by Maurice Donckers

but Tim, it wasn't in class 1 condition when I found it. It will be on its first outing in 2 weeks , for the liberation of the south over here 80 years ago , a few small interior bits are still missing , but it is 98 % complete again.

Look forward to seeing it.

Tim

[Tim Bell]

269916 - Transferred from F squadron to E squadron on 13th April 45

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Confirmed receipt by E from F... the records read UP from the line identifying the vehicle type (unless there are "" marks under the record - in which case they read down).

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From E to D on 24th April 45:

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[Colin Alford]

D Sqn 25 CADR supported 4 Cdn Armd Div.

Here are the pages of the D Sqn War Diary for the last week of April ‘45.
https://heritage.canadiana.ca/view/o...el_t12748/1460

Using this information combined with the Daily Balance sheets found by Tim, it would appear that D Sqn received 269916 in the early evening of 23 Apr, and the earliest they possibly delivered it to 22 CAR was 28 Apr (the delivery shows a quantity but not the WD number).

[Perry Kitson]

Maurice,
You mention a white stripe under the red rectangle with "51" in it. The white stripe indicates an independent armoured brigade, 51 being the senior regiment in that brigade.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Maurice Donckers

but Tim, it wasn't in class 1 condition when I found it. It will be on its first outing in 2 weeks , for the liberation of the south over here 80 years ago , a few small interior bits are still missing , but it is 98 % complete again.

Looking forward to see it running, Maurice. No doubt it will be a stunning restoration.

[Maurice Donckers]

yes Hanno, was a long restoration , the interior from a standard Sherman is 10 times easyer,next project humber box .
Some interesting reading on here , Shipping data mentions jan.44 and another data is march 44 , Arrival for conversion?
The was a lot of stenciling on the sides , but difficult to decipher, About battery`s , Fuel drained , etc, also wireless set installed (american code for 19 set )most overpainted again with the same paint color, even the firefly conversions, a bit of red oxide , and then us dark olive drab.

[Jakko Westerbeke]

I can’t work out from what you’re saying if you overpainted everything, or if that had been done before you got the tank. However, if you’re the one who overpainted things with:—

Originally Posted by Maurice Donckers

us dark olive drab.

then I must point out that Dark Olive Drab No. 41 is a USAAF colour, because they found that the standard OD No. 9 (or No. 22 — same colour, different number) was too light for use on aircraft.

[Maurice Donckers]

Jakko, under the postwar paint which easily flaked off , the where the things I discovered , it was the same with the tank from Tim , just his got graffiti on it afterwards.
Don,t start about color, I have none of my vehicles in the same shade , I Examine a non touched part , and gets analyzed by my paint supplier(easy these days), I have a also a lot of new old stock parts , and even these go from very light olive drab to dark olive drab , Jeeps are lighter than what GMC used, also the Canadian brown comes in different shades .

[maple_leaf_eh]

As a Canadian and former member of the Sherbrooke Hussars, which perpetuates the 27th Canadian Armoured, I am impressed by your determination to restore this tank and to be honest to its origins.

[Maurice Donckers]

thank you Terry
, I started with an empty Hull even all the idler wheels where gone, I knew that the turret went to france in the beginning of the 80ies , so when that came up for sale i went back to the hull, to put everything back together . but most time consuming where all the little bins and brackets for the interior , Engine is build up with surplus NOS bits, so is the drive train

[Jakko Westerbeke]

Originally Posted by Maurice Donckers

I Examine a non touched part , and gets analyzed by my paint supplier(easy these days)

Sounds like you’re doing it right, then (Unlike someone I know who paints his vehicles in whatever shade of military green he likes.) It’s just that the way you said it made me think you used the USAAF colour on a ground vehicle, which is something a lot of modellers do because they’re confused about olive drab, and model paint manufacturers are too.

[Tim Bell]

Originally Posted by Jakko Westerbeke

Sounds like you’re doing it right, then (Unlike someone I know who paints his vehicles in whatever shade of military green he likes.) It’s just that the way you said it made me think you used the USAAF colour on a ground vehicle, which is something a lot of modellers do because they’re confused about olive drab, and model paint manufacturers are too.

I have found many shades of green on parts for mine!

Hard to know if the original paint the original colour, or faded, or added post ww2.

If there is a definite answer, it would be great to know... in the meantime, I will start with US Olive Drab for the 1944 period on the basis this is most likely the colour it left Chrysler with.

Tim