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Old 05-09-24, 05:41
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I think those totals include prewar and post war civilian orders. Possibly many civilian orders were produced during the war for essential services. No doubt they exceeded the military orders as they were (and still are) a very popular size truck

The 8,000 odd in the Chrysler number book look like military orders only.
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Old 05-09-24, 13:29
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Colin, Lang

THANK YOU! Cool!

So it‘s 27.000 vs 8.000 odd, right?
Any proof to either number?

Thank you SOO much, gentlemen
Erwin😃👋
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Old 05-09-24, 23:46
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The 8,000 military order is as close as you will get to proof as it is in the Chrysler Corporation serial number manual as per picture above.

You must remember these were basically civilian trucks painted green coming from a very popular line that was in production for around 10 years. It is quite reasonable to suppose Colin's 27,000 grand total is accurate ie 8,000 for military orders and 19,000 for civilian and other Government department orders (including exports).
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Gents,

I have never attempted to study Dodge Modified Conventional Pattern vehicles as produced by the Chrysler Corporation of Canada during WWII.

To give some additional information regarding my source of information, it is the “Design Record - Canadian-Developed Military Vehicles - World War II” issued by the Army Engineering Design Branch of the Department of Munitions and Supply in Ottawa, Canada on Dec 31st 1945.

Attached are images of the cover, the forward to volume I, and the total vehicle production.

Given the source, I am tempted to believe that the production figure quoted applied only to Military orders.

I have consulted this web page in an attempt to understand Dodge truck production during the relative time period: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_T-,_V-,_W-Series

My read on this information seems to indicate that the Chrysler Corporation of Canada D15 was a different vehicle than the WD-15 produced in the USA.

I note differences in the wheel base, engine displacement, tire size, and the code T-222 (D15) vs T-114 (WD-15).

I am currently tempted to believe that the production figures related to the WD-15 shown above are actually related to US civilian production rather than Canadian Military production.

I am currently inclined to believe that the figure of “approx 27, 000” is likely accurate for Canadian D15 production.
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Old 06-09-24, 05:04
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Good possibility Colin.

I will see what else I can dig up.

Do you have this book?
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Old 06-09-24, 05:52
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If anyone wants Colins Book here are 219 pages.

https://electriccanadian.com/forces/Design_Record04.pdf
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Old 06-09-24, 07:51
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Lang,

I was not aware of that book, but your image lead me to this version from 1952:

https://armyvehiclemarking.com/wp-co...compressed.pdf

The “Dodge Trucks built for the Canadian Government” can be found on page 9-1.

My calculations indicate a total of 28854 T-222 (D15) built. Upon review, I realize that my calculation excluded one vehicle in each block of serial numbers. The correct figure should be 28866.

Note: If someone has the ability to add page 9-1 as an image I believe it will be a useful reference in the future.

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Old 06-09-24, 07:57
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To give some additional information regarding my source of information, it is the “Design Record - Canadian-Developed Military Vehicles - World War II” issued by the Army Engineering Design Branch of the Department of Munitions and Supply in Ottawa, Canada on Dec 31st 1945.

Attached are images of the cover, the forward to volume I, and the total vehicle production.

Given the source, I am tempted to believe that the production figure quoted applied only to Military orders.

I have consulted this web page in an attempt to understand Dodge truck production during the relative time period: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_T-,_V-,_W-Series

My read on this information seems to indicate that the Chrysler Corporation of Canada D15 was a different vehicle than the WD-15 produced in the USA.

I note differences in the wheel base, engine displacement, tire size, and the code T-222 (D15) vs T-114 (WD-15).

I am currently tempted to believe that the production figures related to the WD-15 shown above are actually related to US civilian production rather than Canadian Military production.

I am currently inclined to believe that the figure of “approx 27, 000” is likely accurate for Canadian D15 production.
Colin,

Correct, the WD-15 is a different vehicle from the D15. Both built by Dodge, commonality in parts but a different truck.

Re. the Design Record, it is accessible on this forum for those who have not seen it yet: http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=32966
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