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Old 06-09-24, 04:21
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Gents,

I have never attempted to study Dodge Modified Conventional Pattern vehicles as produced by the Chrysler Corporation of Canada during WWII.

To give some additional information regarding my source of information, it is the “Design Record - Canadian-Developed Military Vehicles - World War II” issued by the Army Engineering Design Branch of the Department of Munitions and Supply in Ottawa, Canada on Dec 31st 1945.

Attached are images of the cover, the forward to volume I, and the total vehicle production.

Given the source, I am tempted to believe that the production figure quoted applied only to Military orders.

I have consulted this web page in an attempt to understand Dodge truck production during the relative time period: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_T-,_V-,_W-Series

My read on this information seems to indicate that the Chrysler Corporation of Canada D15 was a different vehicle than the WD-15 produced in the USA.

I note differences in the wheel base, engine displacement, tire size, and the code T-222 (D15) vs T-114 (WD-15).

I am currently tempted to believe that the production figures related to the WD-15 shown above are actually related to US civilian production rather than Canadian Military production.

I am currently inclined to believe that the figure of “approx 27, 000” is likely accurate for Canadian D15 production.
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Old 06-09-24, 05:04
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Good possibility Colin.

I will see what else I can dig up.

Do you have this book?
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Old 06-09-24, 05:52
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If anyone wants Colins Book here are 219 pages.

https://electriccanadian.com/forces/Design_Record04.pdf
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Old 06-09-24, 07:51
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Lang,

I was not aware of that book, but your image lead me to this version from 1952:

https://armyvehiclemarking.com/wp-co...compressed.pdf

The “Dodge Trucks built for the Canadian Government” can be found on page 9-1.

My calculations indicate a total of 28854 T-222 (D15) built. Upon review, I realize that my calculation excluded one vehicle in each block of serial numbers. The correct figure should be 28866.

Note: If someone has the ability to add page 9-1 as an image I believe it will be a useful reference in the future.

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Old 06-09-24, 07:59
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Lang,

I was not aware of that book, but your image lead me to this version from 1952:

https://armyvehiclemarking.com/wp-co...compressed.pdf

The “Dodge Trucks built for the Canadian Government” can be found on page 9-1.

My calculations indicate a total of 28854 T-222 (D15) built.

Note: If someone has the ability to add page 9-1 as an image I believe it will be a useful reference in the future.
Here is that page:

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Old 06-09-24, 08:06
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Hanno,

Thank you, I have feeling that page will be a handy reference for any future WW2 Canadian Dodge production questions.

Colin
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Lang,

I was not aware of that book, but your image lead me to this version from 1952:

https://armyvehiclemarking.com/wp-co...compressed.pdf

The “Dodge Trucks built for the Canadian Government” can be found on page 9-1.

My calculations indicate a total of 28854 T-222 (D15) built.

Note: If someone has the ability to add page 9-1 as an image I believe it will be a useful reference in the future.
Some ramblings. That publication is a great resource for the Chrysler people. I had a 1946 Dodge ute. The Chrysler Windsor tag on the door pillar stated: model DD1-16. The engine prefix was T112. Looking at the production figures listed, the Canadian plant only produced around 2000 DD1 models for that year. The book doesn't indicate what numbers of each type were built RHD for export to places like Australia and New Zealand.

Also, I can't find the 1941 DeSoto RHD chassis model code SP11 , maybe these chassis' were included in the Plymouth P11 figures. These sedan chassis were used for the 1941 military 12 cwt utes here in Aust. bodied by Richards

Restoration blog of a D15 https://hmvf.co.uk/topic/38577-dodge-d15t/
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Good research Colin.
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Old 07-09-24, 05:55
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Lang,

Thank you, your lead to the Chrysler serial number book certainly helped.

Colin.
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To give some additional information regarding my source of information, it is the “Design Record - Canadian-Developed Military Vehicles - World War II” issued by the Army Engineering Design Branch of the Department of Munitions and Supply in Ottawa, Canada on Dec 31st 1945.

Attached are images of the cover, the forward to volume I, and the total vehicle production.

Given the source, I am tempted to believe that the production figure quoted applied only to Military orders.

I have consulted this web page in an attempt to understand Dodge truck production during the relative time period: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_T-,_V-,_W-Series

My read on this information seems to indicate that the Chrysler Corporation of Canada D15 was a different vehicle than the WD-15 produced in the USA.

I note differences in the wheel base, engine displacement, tire size, and the code T-222 (D15) vs T-114 (WD-15).

I am currently tempted to believe that the production figures related to the WD-15 shown above are actually related to US civilian production rather than Canadian Military production.

I am currently inclined to believe that the figure of “approx 27, 000” is likely accurate for Canadian D15 production.
Colin,

Correct, the WD-15 is a different vehicle from the D15. Both built by Dodge, commonality in parts but a different truck.

Re. the Design Record, it is accessible on this forum for those who have not seen it yet: http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=32966
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