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24-06-07, 22:54
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The centre of gravity must be beyond the limit with this load, lets hope the driver had no side slopes to negotiate or the whole unit would have been on its side. Although the pontoons are inflatable they are no lightweights
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25-06-07, 22:29
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Not the best of images but this shows the Jimmies loaded with potoons taking a short cut through the crops
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25-06-07, 22:34
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This picture shows the first convoy to China down the Stillwell road crossing a large pontoon bridge on the Irrawaddy river in Burma. the convoy of 113 vehicles reached Kunming in China on Feb 4th 1945 thus ending the land blockade to China. Nice Jimmie with radio shack in the forground
cheers Les
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25-06-07, 23:00
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Not as bad as you might think
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25-06-07, 23:05
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Nice shot of a Coleman Quickway crane loading a Autocar
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25-06-07, 23:12
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Whoops , the only thing i can say is they are quick, be back when i have sorted this little problem
cheers Les
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29-06-07, 18:24
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Still cant sort out that last problem so its kicked into touch. Now heres a interesting item, about 15 years ago i put this photo into a model mag to find out more details we all came to the conclusion that it was bridging but never resolved the full purpose of strapping complete large sections in this way. One it must have been rather out of balance whilst travelling, think of the roads in Europe at that time, for obvious reasons its better to go up rather than flat the width would have been totally restrictive and upwards as can be seen would foul bridges, trees, arches etc
comments welcome Les
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29-06-07, 18:26
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I snapped this nice restored Brockway at the Southsea rally must be between 15/20 years ago, is it still in the UK
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29-06-07, 21:44
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That was Pip Biddlecombe's Brockway. I believe it went to the USA, some years ago.
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02-07-07, 17:10
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02-07-07, 23:31
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Trailer Load
David
Are you sure about the load being SBG sections ? The "girder" part seems to be wide and shallow wheras the SBG was narrow and deep - if you see what I mean. Pictures I have seen of AVRE Bridges have varying numbers of cross joists but never seen as many as shown in Les' picture. Just seems a bit "wrong" to me Noel
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03-07-07, 16:12
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Noel, I agree that the sections look "wrong" for SBG; the problem of having a "quick look" at Forum when travelling! I will check drawings when I get home on Thursday and give you and Les a more accurate reply!
David
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10-07-07, 10:30
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Pontoon over the rhine, its reported that this was the first artillery piece to cross
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10-07-07, 22:36
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David P what is the load in the back of the Morris
cheers Les
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12-07-07, 23:38
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Interesting shot of two Bailey bridges across the river Seine, a 8" howitzer crosses
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13-07-07, 00:44
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The load looks like kapok bouyancy rafts (maybe not the correct term for them, though)
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01-04-11, 21:32
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Another class 40 baily bridge this one is Winston built over the River Orne at Caen built by the Canadian engineers
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14-07-07, 00:54
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Yes i was thinking along those lines Richard, i will be at the show on thursday
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14-07-07, 01:25
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Might see you about then.
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23-07-07, 12:57
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another for the bridging thread
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24-07-07, 14:30
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Looks like you have the same FBE Mk III handbook (1941) as me! I have already posted loading diagrams (was it here or on David Hayward's Mystery WD truck thread?) Plate XII c & d. Another interesting area in this handbook is the temporary loading diagrams (Plate XII a & b) and photos (Plate XVII & XVIII) using FBE Mk II lorries and trailers; have you ever seen any "in service" photographs that confirm this loading? I can scan and post these images if anyone is interested (same for FBE III loading diagrams). David Last edited by David Potter; 24-07-07 at 18:06.
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24-07-07, 14:47
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Richard F quite accurately described the load as kapok rafts; here is a more complete description of kapok system. David The basic kapok bridge was an Infantry Assault Bridge but the equipment could be used for a variety of roles. Infantry Assault Bridge 6'6" long kapok filled floats supported a wooden walkway. Decking was 6'6" long and 1'10.5" wide Each bay weighs 1cwt. Attachment, Carrier Flotation, Kapok MkI & MkII Kapok floats together with special fittings could also be used to float a carrier. MkI designed for Universal Carrier MkI MkII could be fitted to all carriers except the T16 8x brackets were clamped to the carrier, 2x front, rear and each side. THese carried kapok floats fastened by chains. 9x kapok floats were used; 3 vertical at the front, 2 vertical on each side and 2 horizontal at the rear. Raft for 15cwt truck It is possible to coonstruct a raft to carry light vehicles including 15cwt. These use kapok floats lashed together and trackways of walkway. Loading the raft is difficult and the lack of rigidity can be a problem. 27x floats are lashed together in three layers. 8x walkways are lashed over the floats to form two trackways.
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24-07-07, 17:23
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This photo (V6555) is in same sequence. Official caption: "Testing MkII version of FBE Raft. The lorry is loaded with the latest version of the Kapok Raft equipment". David
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24-07-07, 17:54
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I still think we are looking at SBG in one form or another. The section issue raised by Noel can be explained that these are tapered hornbeam sections (you can see that furthest section gets deeper towards front of trailer). In defence of original idea that it was for AVRE SBG Assault Bridge are: a) Lack of centre decking (as in MkII AVRE bridge) b) Tow bar / A frame for Towed SBG Assault Bridge (although recent examination of drawings shows towing eye attached to bakseat!) Latest theory! Kastentrager-Gerat : German copy of SBG! "In the mid 1930's the German Army copied the design of the SBG almost exactly, calling their bridge the Kastentrager-Gerat, literally the bow girder equipment. The K-Gerat used the same panel length as the SBG, but slightly ammended the bracing details. A 1943 article in the German magazine Military Engineer describes the bridge being used on the Russian front in conjunction with pontoons and goes on to say that 'the bridge has given good service and is similar to bridges used in enemy armies'. Its use prompted an instruction in a Royal Engineers Training Memorandum of the same year to the effect that, although the SBG MkIII was by then obsolete in the British Army, training with SBG should occasionally continue to enable units to utilize captured enemy equipment" (One More River to Cross, Col. JH Joiner) Reasoning behind this is that the trailer looks more German than British! (Just waiting for someone to prove me wrong there!) Attached is a (poor) image of Engineer Vehicle 11 (Pf.11), Pontoon Wagon (D600) which has similar mudguards and belly locker. OK so that is my tuppenceworth on this subject! Oh, still can't find ID for AoS 16, plate does look more British than German.... now if I could see AoS on Scammell in the background......... All for now David
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02-12-07, 23:59
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Interesting photo of a ferry on excercise inthe UK, note the power source for the ferry i presume the jeep has enough power to move the 28 ton tank plus the ferry. i am aware that small things can make even bigger ones move in water but this must have been slow
cheers Les
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03-12-07, 00:01
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A shot of the Churchill bridge, any one care to identify the van, it looks French to me
Les
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05-03-08, 15:24
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Glad to see the threads have been moved from the old sites, so to continue the bridging heres a rare shot of British engineers operating two lifting dericks both being driven by the Chicago compressor of i would guess between 4 and500 CFM
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03-05-08, 22:54
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I have already referred to http://cgsc.leavenworth.army.mil/car...entdm/home.htm twice today - this is just a quick post to say that the "Obsolete Manuals " section includes "Ponton Manual 1917"
Noel
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24-11-10, 02:59
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'37 Dodge 1 ton van..
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It looks like a '37 Dodge one ton van.. The wheels and that big chrome strip down the center of the grill give it away.. Here is a 1/2 ton civilian version. http://www.autogallery.org.ru/k/d/37...ickup2_NAC.jpg And another here http://www.autogallery.org.ru/k/d/37...up_Carsnet.jpg Check out the wheels and grill on this '36.. http://www.autogallery.org.ru/k/d/36...yl3spd_CCT.jpg Aussie version here http://www.autogallery.org.ru/k/da/3..._NormEllis.jpg
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29-12-10, 19:12
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Class 50/60 Raft
In the January issue of "Military Machines International" Les Freathy produced a nice article on WW2 tailers - including one of the Class 50/60 raft trailer.
Here's some info from the Trux website: - The class 5/60 raft was only used, in NW Europe, for the Rhine crossing. The trailer was sopposed to be towed by a "Tractor 6 ton 4x4" but for the actual crossing they were towed by "Royal Artilery tractors from an AA unit" Can anyone add to this information? Noel
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