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"There are three possible scenarios here that will have me desist from exposing the obvious people/vehicle anomalies and apparent profiteering, plus having a little joke now and again as an illustration. The scenarios are:
1. I kick the bucket. 2. GWB alone tells me to desist. 3. I decide when. None of these three conditions have been met, so the answer to your last question must therefore be no." You're not the bastard son of Anne robinson and ester ransen are you. Tirelessly fighting for the good of others-that go to your group's show  :
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13-01-04, 19:18
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I have my birth certificate here (CJ 494192) which clearly records father as H M Notton Capt. REME and mother as M E Notton, formerly Wardale, birth registered on 7 June 1946 and signed by the registrar Arthur Levington. Further, I have marriage certificate 113175 dated August 26, 1937, signed by the curate B. Bissell to additionally support the correctness of my issue in variance to that which you infer. May it also please you to note that I have not descended in tone or propriety to defame, debase or insult your character; rather the points have been carefully, correctly and politely addressed. Good day to you. R.
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13-01-04, 21:56
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13-01-04, 22:22
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13-01-04, 22:25
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July, 2000. Left to right, ME, Richard 'McStolly' Notton, Brian Gough. Note the MLU sign, painted by Bruce Parker, now resident in the Ballard garage (the sign, not Bruce), home of the F15A Polsten truck in the background. Immediately behind Brian is our friend Andreas Mehlhorn's original Kettenkrad, the best way of getting around Beltring or any other MV show! BTW, for the record, Doug, I support Richard in this Beltring thing. My visit in the year 2000 was wonderful, but the return trip in 2001 showed a marked deterioration in services... but while I had free entry as a judge and journalist, I pity those who were forced to pay an ever-increasing burden for the privilege of bringing their fragile, age-old army trucks for display, simply to enrich the pockets of those who run the place. It offends my sensibilities. I'm old infantry... yes, I can be dirty for a week... do I want to, especially if I have to pay for the privilege? No. Do I want to crap in the woods? No. What started out as a magnificent gesture and form-of-expression seems to have turned into yet another government-like drain on one's pocket book. I cannot support THAT. We suffer enough from the "originals" as it is. Besides, the bottom line is that I can look at old army trucks anywhere... but if I'm going to pay the money to fly the pond and keep me in beer for a couple of weeks, I'm going where my friends are. And that ain't Beltring. This year, that's the Solent MVT show. Cheers, all. G.
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13-01-04, 22:30
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Dirk-nice picture , just a shame about the people in it (no offence meant by this-it's just your obscuring the vehicles). Typical beltring sun and khaki-well worth £25 of almost anybodies money. by the way-Is the tow hitch just appearing on the edge of the photograph off the famous polsen?
And Mr Mcstolly-I didn't actually belive your the bastard son of anybody(let alone two women) I was hoping to bring some light relief into a thread,the subject of which we will probably never agree on . Anyway unless your a ginger,big toothed,welsh hating liverpudlian with a love of talking dogs-nobody would belive you were their son anyway. (again meant in jest!) Mr W-B I can quite understand your wanting to be with your friends, and after you've paid for a trip across the pond, it's up to you where to go. My main gripe was that mr McS was/is the main complainant and directly connected to another show. (I'm sure if it was in parliament it would be classed as a conflict of intrests). For the record- I know who the people and vehicles in the photo are, as I've spent a lot of time reading your site and link's-in fact it's probably your fault I started going to Beltring in the first place-you sold it very well. I think it's a pity you (by you I mean the main contributors to this site who have been to beltring) don't still go, as you I Imagine have the influence to get these things changed. I don't really think my E-mail to Mr Cadman will change much, unless it was going to change anyway. But I'm young (and yes pig headed) enough to try to change things ,in my own small way. PS-is the maple leaf up site likely to be updated in the near future-I need my fix. Last edited by dougiebarder; 13-01-04 at 22:49.
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14-01-04, 20:54
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I think your enthusiasm is a credit to you, I note you say you are young in your last post, this too is a very positive thing. Apart from my own son David and Rory Ballard there are precious few young serious restorers coming on that I come across to fill the ranks. Or indeed take over the restored trucks as the old owners drop off the twig. A subject that Hanno and I covered at some depth at Beltring 2003 while downing a respectable volume of beer and watching the rain from the confines of the Oxford CMP crew's QM tent. I don't know if you are an MVT member but the obituary column in Windscreen magazine now has two or three in each addition. A fair proportion of these guys were people who I looked up to as examples thirty years ago when I was young and setting out on an obsession that will last for me a life time...... as I genuinely hope it will for you. I should say at this point that I'm older than you by some way I suspect….. But nowhere near as old as some of the old Goat's on this forum (joke guys) The serious point of this post is this: Thirty years ago when I turned up to a show (and they were nearly all steam shows) in an MV the organisers tended to think of you as either a closet fascist or a toy soldier, my age did not help in either perception. The MVT as it is now, the MVCG as it was then, campaigned tirelessly to get MV collecting recognised and legitimised in this country. This was done through the efforts of local area secretaries such as myself approaching show organisers and asking/ cajoling them to get a slot in the programme and a turn round the arena. Once accepted the Show organisers then PAID YOU to attend. I well remember chairing a heated discussion at a Berks and Oxon MVCG club night in 1978, the proposal tabled was that we should not attend a show unless the organiser paid petrol mileage, the exception to this was genuine charity events, and most did pay at least one way, even the charity events. Times change and now very few shows pay petrol money and that's just down to economics,....... why am I telling you all this?, well……… I hope you don't think that I trying to belittle your argument or lecture you, I'm not… There is a two fold reason. Firstly I agree with a lot of your sentiments expressed in this thread. However I am trying to show you the way it was and therefore why for some of us 'oldies' the thought of paying large sums of money to professional organisers is contentious. It would perhaps be a different discussion if the show were put on for owners only, i.e. no public through the gate. Secondly before Beltring became the undoubted phenomenon that is has become MV owners still went to shows through the season, we still went on tour to Europe and we had a good time. There is no malice or intent in the statement when I say that there are plenty of good shows to go to. A number of these shows have the potential to become the showcase that Beltring is……..The answer lies with……… US WE ARE THE SHOW. I wish you well Dougie and hope we meet some day at a show, but for me it will not be Beltring Regards Pete 
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14-01-04, 21:56
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Pete- Thanks for the reply, but I feel a bit guilty about being described as a restorer though (Paticularly in the same sentence as the other names you mention). I look on my self as a collector/magpie. As I've mentioned in the past my only MV is a FFR landrover and sankey trailor, which lives on the path,as I've no garage. The older vehicles deserve better.
I really hope more younger collectors come along as there's a lot of MV's that need saving (there's a scrap yard in Bolton I see occasionally with something military looking at the back-probably nothing unusual-50's or 60's? truck , but the AA hatch in the cab caught my eye). I can understand your views about the organisers paying petrol in the past (although W&P do say something about paying petrol for the more unusual vehicles-probably not many though), but I look at Beltring as a week's holiday and don't mind paying my cost's-admittedly a lot smaller than some. I would like to go to more events, but I feel slightly out of the loop living up north(and at the moment my ever changing work rota see's me working more satadays than I'm off). Also I collect all sorts of surplus junk as it is-much more and I'll be living in a tent in the garden with the house full of it. I've no time for drug's-I've got a history habit. Dougie
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17-01-04, 20:44
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FFW and Sankey
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Don't put yourself down, the fact that you own a FFW and a Sankey is just fine. There's a strong possibility that when I restored my first jeep it was as old as your FFW is now. Everything has history some of it just has more. So keep at it, don't be put off, I note that you are from up North, there is a very active show scene up there you know…are you a member of a club?. Regards Pete 
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17-01-04, 21:11
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Pete-thanks for the encouragement. I will get the FFR done, but I know how long I take to get round to things(I've been at least 8 month's gettiing myself a workshop built in the garden-and unfortunatly it's got no vehicle access).
I'm In the EMLRA (Ex military landrover association), but Beltring might be the first show of the year I get to. (I need an excuse to put up my 12M clark mast and get the clansman gear fired up-although as I haven't got a radio licence,I best make sure it's on recive only). Anyway If I go to the show's I buy stuff-If it wasn't for the fact I haven't got the room, I fell in love with and wanted to buy the morris commercial compresser truck outside one of the deact dealers at Beltring 2002-It seemed such a bargin at the time.
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17-01-04, 22:10
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Ah, Morris Commercials. Me and Mr M-C Rory Ballard went to have a good look at that one. It was all there broadly but would have been a huge task to do it properly and generally these things are rare as they do tend to defeat all but the most persistent, experienced people; I think this one has been sold on again. . . . . Nothing wrong with having a go though, but you do need to have an idea of the black hole you're dropping into beforehand. R.
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17-01-04, 22:30
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" It was all there broadly but would have been a huge task to do it properly and generally these things are rare as they do tend to defeat all but the most persistent, experienced people.."
I got the feeling that might have been the case. I really don't know enough about older vehicles-my theory is that the only way you really get to know is buy one and make all the mistakes. (although reading about other peoples is the next best thing). As for the radio licence, I did check out the radio society of Great Britain a while back, but didn't get any further(which is pretty dumb as I did a fair amount of comm's theory when I was in college)-I'll have to bite the bullet and book a course. Out of intrest, do your and your wife use older military sets, or more modern one's?
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18-01-04, 02:19
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There are some real dogs around that still keep running, to their credit, but a restoration of one of these isn't easy, you really need to know your stuff and what civvy parts, to be found in that sphere, are common, plus a background of collecting little gems over the years as they appear. I will admit to being spoilt though, having spent years watching RB make a rough but running PU into a pile of individual parts and then re-build/re-make it as new; it helps having a tool-maker as a father and being a very competent joiner too with a huge pile of seasoned ash planks to work with. I'm watching the CDSW similarly and even so the bottom line ends up as a four figure sum without counting the hours. Our resident M-C fan in the shape of Mike K may well confirm and he has sourced parts from the Ballard collection, long way to go for a bit. Well, you know how many turn up at Beltring, which is a good yardstick. Radio, or wireless as I still prefer it. It is my profession from training and formal qualifications at GCHQ (the latter-day Bletchley Park) in the mid/late 60's, then 18 years at Marconi on guided weapons and torpedoes, to now scratching about running a weeny commercial radio comms business. I used to operate old army sets years ago (the licence is 1970) but for the last 25years doing it all day tends to kill the appetite for doing more afterwards, hence a penchant for old army trucks perhaps. Mrs Notton used to work for a major "ham" supplier years ago who has now withdrawn from that market (SMC), she did the RAE as it seemed pertinent to the job although she worked on the commercial/business radio side of things, hence our meeting actually. Neither of us has used ham radio for many a year and then its been on reciprocal licences in the States in the pre-roaming cellphone days. Your Clansman was designed and developed at Marconi - Browns Lane by Paul Dent (G3VEL) whilst I was there and I've had many contacts with Paul using one on 4M since they were allocated 70.25MHz for air testing and 70.26MHz was the national mobile calling freq, idly thumbing through some dusty log books I see we worked a prototype Clansman on 19/12/71 - 1545 to 1600 GMT. There is an active Clansman list on Yahoogroups Clansman list clansman_larkspur@yahoogroups.com and I would encourage you to think about a ham licence; I have to work with the field officers of the new OFCOM (formerly the Radiocommunications Agency) and they do know all about the military shows and people with operating and operational kit. One day the axe will fall, it has been an offence for some time now to have possession of operational transmitters without a licence. The law allows them to confiscate the power supply too and if this is a battery charged by the alternator and thus the engine, then the vehicle goes too!!! In some 5 years or so, when the sunspot peak returns and thus some decent propagation, I shall fire up the PU 11set on CW and see if we can raise Mike K (VK3CZ) down under using the ground antenna, counterpoise and the correct tuner; probably have the cell-phone on the other ear though for talk-back, if you _really_ want to talk to someone use the phone!!! One of my Morse tutors was an old boy at Marconi; a boy entrant in the RN shortly after WWI when transmitters had rotary spark wheels and you knew the ship by its growling Morse note; the days when the code safe had to be hand carried every watch to the bridge and checked by the officer of the watch. Not only did Nobby Clarke make such excellent and easy Morse he could read lights, and semaphore of course, "front" or "back" as a Leading Tel/air gunner. Probably long gone now, but he did have an accredited ME109 destroyed using a Vickers K gun from the side window of a Walrus. Apparently in the middle of a long, tediously hand encoded report, shafts of light started to appear in the wireless position through the fuselage skin and shards of wood were disappearing from the wireless desk; in somewhat of high dudgeon with the prospect of re-encrypting the report, the 109 was espied from the dorsal square window, this was duly shipped and the K gun mounted resulting in the 109 to be seen trailing smoke and glycol heading directly for the Mediterranean. The other job for the wireless operator was to catch and attach the crane hook during recovery alongside, a rather fraught operation bobbing on the sea since the pilot would not stop the engine until hoisted clear of the water; can be clearly seen here http://www.fleetairarmarchive.net/Aircraft/Walrus.htm R.
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Regarding the amateur radio code . Same here , they have recently dropped the CW ( Morse ) requirement . All of the limited licensee calls that could previously use only VHF are now let loose on HF . We had around 18,000 hams at one stage , but the Govt. doubled the fee , and with the internet coming along , numbers dropped . The dropping of the morse is , I think , a bid to boost interest in what is perceived to be a old fashioned hobby . That Morris - C CS8 compressor truck Dougie mentioned has since been sold to a dealer Holland I believe . The buyer at Beltring played with it for a while , but gave up . As Richard said , restoring a odd , lesser known brand really tests out your patience . As far as I know , I am the only military Morris Commercial enthusiast/collector in the country , this situation has its ups and downs . One good thing is , I have no competition at all when it comes to finding parts , no-one else wants it . But , a negative is , nobody to discuss things with . I want to spend a day at the Ballards spare parts division , I will drug Rory and tie up Dave , then ransack the place . Bribe the UK customs officials , and off home . Ah ! I forgot , my plan relies on getting into the UK in the first place , would they let a person with a known convict past into old blighty . No. 11 set QSO to the UK ! It is possible in theory , quite possible . But, we would nead a clear 10 khz of band space , exceptional conditions . We will DO IT . But, Rory has to turn over that 11 set LP unit first . Get it spinning around , it sounds like a ME 262 engine at full revs WHIZZZZZZZZZZ. Lots of that larkspur stuff around here . To give you an idea, the local disposals store in town ( pop 5000 ) has a Larkspur Landrover FFR charging panel box thing and brand new Larkspur microphones , still wrapped in the packets ! I had two C13's , the Larkspur HF set , swapped them for something . Mike Last edited by Mike K; 18-01-04 at 16:25.
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It sound's as if that compressor truck is really doing the round's-hopefully each new owner will move it one more step towards completion. I suppose it's not too bad if you have a nice drive in work shop with a lathe and milling machine (I can dream). Looking at the photo's on the "Brakes lines.....needs advice..." thread show how nicely it can be done(look's like new-show's what a difference paint makes)
Also Mike-if you need a look out man for your part's raid, you can count on me-for a cut of the spoils. I'm not sure what the larkspur situation is over here. When I got some from my usual supplier, he said he hardly had any left and two Irish men had offered to buy all he had. (i've got a decrepid C13 plus most of it's harness , but it's amongst many waiting for repair). Mr McS I've been a member of the clansman larkspur group for a while now, but it's been pretty dead for a few months. The 19 set group is pretty active at the moment though,and the people posting seem to have a good technical knowledge as well.
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Regarding the amateur radio code . Same here , they have recently dropped the CW ( Morse ) requirement . . . . . The dropping of the morse is , I think , a bid to boost interest in what is perceived to be a old fashioned hobby . > The official line here concerns the view of IARU region 1 and the previous shared nature of the HF bands with commercial shipping, being a maritime nation this was considered very important. Broadly, maritime traffic to the many UK coast radio stations was crystal controlled and CW only, so you'd be asked to move in CW by a vessel radio op. This has now all gone of course with advancing technology and most all of the CRS have closed. > That Morris - C CS8 compressor truck Dougie mentioned has since been sold to a dealer Holland I believe . The buyer at Beltring played with it for a while , but gave up . As Richard said , restoring a odd , lesser known brand really tests out your patience . > There was a lot wrong with it RB tells me but an excellent basis for a restoration; trouble is, when a Ballard talks of restoration it does mean from the mud up which involves rendering the thing to individual parts, including de-riveting, and building up to as-new. Years of patient work and huge sums of money which you never see back, but thank Heavens for the small army of dedicated people prepared to do this, be it old army trucks or whatever, it makes the world a richer and more interesting place. How long it continues, as the youngsters are indoctrinated into "more PC" stuff and the continuing tsunamis of restrictive legislation falling out of the EU remove the specialist engineering firms and take essential materials away from us, is anybodies guess. The Shirrell Heath LRDG will continue to break the law though as illegal, uncertified, asbestos hauliers since we have copper/asbestos/copper head gaskets in use. I can't say I'm much of a fan (slight understatement) of the federal Europe idea, quite apart from the 20 billion p.a. we chuck at it, as its turned out I do wonder why we threw all those good blokes from all over at it 60 years ago, seems like the ultimate smack in the face from officialdom as far as I can see. Anyway, don't get me started . . . . .  > I want to spend a day at the Ballards spare parts division , I will drug Rory and tie up Dave , then ransack the place . Bribe the UK customs officials , and off home . > Its a right Aladdins cave of M-C gems. Yet another CS8 arrived yesterday, as the usual heap of very rusty poo, in a HIAB tipper (Brian K of the F30LAA). The axles and extended chassis was converted to a farm trailer and needed the petrol disc cutter to render it into a sensible load; the engine and front end had been mounted on a castor wheeled dolly as a grain blower and has a home-brew vaporiser on a carb extension to operate on TVO (Kerosene). Heap of very restorable bits, s'pose you'll want some digipics Mike K? > Ah ! I forgot , my plan relies on getting into the UK in the first place , would they let a person with a known convict past into old blighty . > Yes indeed, the original population hand picked by the finest legal brains of this country. I never did understand though the logic of leaving the innocents here on this tiny, grey, wet and cold island in the North Sea and shipping the PoHMs off to a gigantic, sunny continent in the Pacific, surely some mistake ? > No. 11 set QSO to the UK ! It is possible in theory , quite possible . But, we would nead a clear 10 khz of band space , exceptional conditions . We will DO IT . But, Rory has to turn over that 11 set LP unit first . Get it spinning around , it sounds like a ME 262 engine at full revs WHIZZZZZZZZZZ. > I have the HP rotary converter working well, its just fitting in the time to do the RX/LP one which is rather sluggish and has some leaking caps. As you know the 60yr old "Mazak", carburettor monkey metal, crappite castings of the converters is a bit of a problem. We have had success stabilising these from crumbling before your eyes by painting them with superglue, the surface tension pulls the material into the cracks and the nature of the material is that the bond happens when the glue line becomes very thin. It would have to be a CW contact I think to maximise the TX power efficiency in a narrow bandwidth and may need several attempts too, plenty of time yet while the sun gets its act together. R.
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Ah ! you have those crazy asbestos laws too. As of 1st Jan here , old brake linings and head gaskets with asbestos component are illegal to sell .
Talking of No.11 set rotary transformers,UK built examples I have are 100% better quality than the crap AWA Aust. ones . The whole EK Cole set is better really . Take a look at my web page on No. 11 sets to see the genuine article from 1940 . The Aust. built version was , really a bit of junk compared to the UK version . http://www.geocities.com/vk3cz/wireless.html Those coastal CW stations , yes , same here , they are all gone now . But ,I often listened to VIM at CApe Shank just below 500 khz . The coastal trading ships had four letter call signs , always beginning with a V . Real shame its all gone , it lasted well into the late 1980's . 500 khz was the distress channel . We are region 3 here I think in the world IARU setup . JAp fishing boats often use our 80 metre segment , huge booming SSb signals , and they are usually within 20 miles of each other . Or tied up in a Aust. port causing much interference to us . I have had many ex mil radios through my hands , passed most of them onto other people . Quality varies quite a lot with WW2 stuff . Most of the smaller Aust. sets are pretty crappy . US stuff, generally quite well built . British stuff varies , some very bad , some very good . I often think those 19 sets were designed to be just good enough to do the job , nothing fancy and actually , rather junky . German WW2 radios I have seen , very well designed and early on , beautifully built , very functional . Yes, any CS8 pics welcome , even rusty wrecks . CS8's suffer rusted out chassis here . Of my three , only one is useable , and that one needs much work , dismantling and welding . Mike Last edited by Mike K; 19-01-04 at 16:17.
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This is extract of the IMPS chairman’s report for information.
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I have the entry form for this year's show in front of me, and it read's " The hop farm country park presents the KM War and peace show 21st-25th July 2004 In association with the Invicta Military Vehicle Preservation Society". So One would presume that the IMPS would have a pretty strong case as their name is still being used on the paperwork.
I really hope the two parties get their acts together , rather than wrecking What is probably the best show in the world (apart from the toilets-and after all the promises I hope even they will be improved this year ). And talking of show's, As I can't make it to Mr McStolly's Overlord show -Can you post lots of nice pictures Please everybody.
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You could argue that IMPS made the first mistake in letting it go but did their best to protect their interests and limit the timescale; of course 20/20 hindsight now is a wondrous thing. Their chairman, who was not involved in the original deal, is doing the only thing possible in the best interests of IMPS. I expect the show paperwork was done some time ago and perhaps there is some damage limitation going on too, but I have no real idea. Its also a salutary lesson in illustrating the differences between a for profit venture and the rest of the events genuinely done for philanthropic reasons. I can tell you that toilets are the single biggest overhead and have more impact than rows of unique MVs; we have 30 laid on this year plus disabled and urinals for the beer tent; at this level we also decided to have permanent on-site attendants too. Its well over 3000 pounds at one hit. I'll let the attendees rate the facility after the event. In terms of Overlord pictures there is some good news. Apart from despatching the inestimable and esteemed Binnington-Swall, found herein, to compile a montage for the MLU; we have a professional film crew (Flying Films) who are using the show material to complete a commissioned documentary for a TV company, they are going to separately compile the show material into an edited video for us specifically. As GWB knows, we have a pre-show event which I may as well share with you all now. Close by the show site is a Canadian Memorial, placed by private donation, to commemorate the salute and inspection of troops by KG VI on May 22nd 1944. This was a big, non-public parade with thousands of RN ratings lining the route as is befitting and to keep the public out; the records we have found say it was the 21st Army Group and so a huge contingent of Canadian 2nd Army would have been there. The area is within the ambit of Canadian "occupation" and we know from local records that most of the open space here was Canadian encampments; indeed the pre-embarkation movements would have been in motion so possibly the far distant Canadian units may well have been close to hand at this time. Before every Overlord Show we do a small drive-past of this little known memorial on the anniversary date both out of respect and to gain some publicity, we have the Royal British Legion attend and man the stone with their standards. The convoy usually consists of whatever we can trawl up from the SMVT members, with Ballard and the DTB F15 at the head, plus Mr. FV623 acts as the tail guard since I can stop impatient cars trying to break into the line with ease. This special year I decided to ask the Canadian High Commissioner to attend fully expecting a polite refusal, however, he has commanded his rep, a serving Canadian officer on detachment at Blandford Sigs Camp, to attend and take the salute. I'm also determined that we will have WWII vehicles only and if at all possible a majority of CMPs. We already have the police on-board for a short duration road closure too. In the last week we find the local authority has started work on a re-dedication of the stone after its vandalisation last year which I find nationally and privately shameful; it is a sad indication of the society we now find ourselves in but perhaps perversely because of the supreme efforts of the people these memorials celebrate, then these ignorant and mindless vandal types are indeed free to do such things and stay alive; it would have been very different under another regime. So, we are combining the re-dedication and salute event under the auspices of the Solent Area MVT and making a much bigger show out of it, certainly the media will be there and again our documentary sponsor, Flying Films, will be on hand to do an in-depth record. There is no chance of Ball-Spinny taking pictures for you as I have him firmly planted in a CMP replete in correct WWII Canadian uniform, neither can I do it since it would seem to be one of those rare occasions when I'm going to be obliged to find the jacket and tie in the back of the wardrobe. We expect Flying Films to make this celebration the opening piece to their Overlord video and I hope it is a reasonably priced affair. Now, further to this I have made contact with all the CMP suspects I know and am pleading for their attendance with an expenses carrot too, but any I have missed that could be here for the day on May 22nd I'd like to hear from. All the best, R.
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