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Old 23-09-07, 21:10
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From the limited resolution & from where it's cut off it is hard to be 100%, but it's definitely Vickers by the radiator exhausts and the thicker spokes on the rear wheel. I think the rear plate of the turret is visible, and don't know what the bulges are...
Rob, just what I thought. Here's a slightly larger view, unmistakenbly Vickers Model 1936. . . The angular turret is the giveaway.
Could this be one of the Vickers "Dutchmans" sent to Greece, and captured there by the Germans?

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Old 19-09-08, 12:36
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Another pic of a Vickers Dutchman off Ebay. In German use in Greece.

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Old 20-09-08, 12:37
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Great stuff Gents. Last year I bought a Vickers MG that had been supplied to KNIL as one of their trials guns and the KNIL is something I have been trying to find out more about so to find out more regarding Vickers-supplied equipment, and the types of tanks that would have used the Vickers 7.7mm is superb.

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Old 12-01-09, 12:05
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Here's a slightly larger view, unmistakenbly Vickers Model 1936. . . The angular turret is the giveaway.
Could this be one of the Vickers "Dutchmans" sent to Greece, and captured there by the Germans?
This picture shows (another?) captured Dutchman, knocked-out somewhere in Russia.

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Old 12-01-09, 12:18
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Here is another view of that dump in Greece with two Dutchmen visible. It looks like it was an attraction for Germans in the area. The photo is again from ebay.

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Could this be one of the Vickers "Dutchmans" sent to Greece, and captured there by the Germans?
Gentlemen, I think it far more likely the tank in question was a former Latvian or Lithuanian Vickers. After the Soviet 1940 annexation of the Baltic States, these machines became part of the equipment of the Red Army's 12th Mechanized Corps, where most likely ended up in German hands.

The knocked out DAF armored cars could indicate use by the German 227th Infantry Division, whose reconnaissance battalion took four ex-Dutch DAF M39 armored cars to the Eastern Front in late Autumn 1941. However, I have yet to see any hard evidence they ever had a captured Vickers light tank on strength.

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Old 21-01-09, 12:16
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Gentlemen, I think it far more likely the tank in question was a former Latvian or Lithuanian Vickers. After the Soviet 1940 annexation of the Baltic States, these machines became part of the equipment of the Red Army's 12th Mechanized Corps, where most likely ended up in German hands.
David,

Having dug up more info on the subject, I think the odds are indeed larger this (these?) are captured Latvian or Lithuanian Vickers M1936 tanks.

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"Lithuanian Vickers M1936 tanks and infantry wait for orders to cross the Lithuanian-Polish frontier on September 19, 1939"
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Old 22-01-09, 20:29
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Hanno,

It's interesting that the photo you posted appears to show a mix of both Lithuanian M1934 and M1936 models, looking at the suspension bogies. A breakdown of the rather odd mix of armored vehicles present in the 12th Mechanized Corps in June 1941 can be found here:

http://rkkaww2.armchairgeneral.com/f...corps/12mk.htm

A total of 42 Vickers tankettes of all types were listed, including 5 of the 40mm gun-armed version. Apparently only about 13 of the 42 were still serviceable on 22 June 1941.

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Old 09-11-09, 20:27
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Another captured Dutchman.

Source: http://www.odkrywca-online.pl/pokaz_watek.php?id=225326

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