MLU FORUM  

Go Back   MLU FORUM > MILITARY VEHICLES > The Softskin Forum

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-11-07, 11:39
Kuno Kuno is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Libya... most of the Time
Posts: 536
Default 6,500 Kilometres through Libya

...I have just come back from a fascinating 3 weeks trip through the desert of Libya and would like to show a few impressions, concentrating to the several truck wrecks we had found
Attached Images
File Type: jpg watani travel.0703 (17).jpg (18.7 KB, 726 views)
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-11-07, 11:39
Kuno Kuno is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Libya... most of the Time
Posts: 536
Default

Our supply truck
Attached Images
File Type: jpg watani travel.0703 (19).jpg (26.3 KB, 693 views)
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-11-07, 11:40
Kuno Kuno is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Libya... most of the Time
Posts: 536
Default

...and a bullet riddled wreck of a CMP
Attached Images
File Type: jpg watani travel.0703 (20).jpg (25.6 KB, 706 views)
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-11-07, 11:41
Kuno Kuno is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Libya... most of the Time
Posts: 536
Default

The supply truck in tow through the soft sands due to radiator problems and constant overheating
Attached Images
File Type: jpg watani travel.0703 (23).jpg (10.8 KB, 668 views)
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-11-07, 11:42
Kuno Kuno is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Libya... most of the Time
Posts: 536
Default

"not so easy going" in a huge field of sharp stones
Attached Images
File Type: jpg watani travel.0703 (31).jpg (23.6 KB, 657 views)
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-11-07, 11:42
Kuno Kuno is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Libya... most of the Time
Posts: 536
Default

Another CMP which did not make it home - lost n a supply route of the LRDG.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg watani travel.0703 (35).jpg (22.8 KB, 697 views)
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-11-07, 11:43
Kuno Kuno is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Libya... most of the Time
Posts: 536
Default

The endless dune ridges of the Calansho-Sandsea
Attached Images
File Type: jpg watani travel.0703 (38).jpg (12.7 KB, 634 views)
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-11-07, 11:43
Kuno Kuno is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Libya... most of the Time
Posts: 536
Default

...and crossing them
Attached Images
File Type: jpg watani travel.0703 (39).jpg (9.0 KB, 632 views)
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-11-07, 11:44
Kuno Kuno is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Libya... most of the Time
Posts: 536
Default

Stucked in soft sand
Attached Images
File Type: jpg watani travel.0703 (46).jpg (21.4 KB, 630 views)
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-11-07, 11:45
Kuno Kuno is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Libya... most of the Time
Posts: 536
Default

Looking down....
Attached Images
File Type: jpg watani travel.0703 (48).jpg (13.2 KB, 632 views)
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 02-11-07, 11:48
Kuno Kuno is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Libya... most of the Time
Posts: 536
Default

And a FORD wreck.

Anybody having a clue, what this could be? The cab stripped down & doors removed. Also brackets for sand ladders....

...and LRDG-patrol vehicle?

Have never seen a reference where the LRDG was using such FORD.

...and it had a "roundel" on the hood; looked like "RAF"
Attached Images
File Type: jpg watani travel.0703 (63).jpg (20.0 KB, 687 views)
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 02-11-07, 22:33
Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP)'s Avatar
Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP) Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP) is offline
former OC MLU, AKA 'Jif' - sadly no longer with us
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 5,400
Thumbs up Outstanding!

Excellent photographs, Kuno, thank you. Any chance of getting a nice story to go along with them? I'm sure many here would be interested to hear details of your trek!

Jif
__________________
SUNRAY SENDS AND ENDS
:remember :support
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 02-11-07, 22:43
Kuno Kuno is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Libya... most of the Time
Posts: 536
Default

Hi Goeff; will prepare a short "diary" - but after 3 weeks of absence from the job such will take a little bit of time....
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 28-12-07, 21:20
Kuno Kuno is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Libya... most of the Time
Posts: 536
Default

...have "cancelled" the diary and started planning for the next trip
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 29-12-07, 15:17
Tony Smith's Avatar
Tony Smith Tony Smith is offline
No1, Mk 2** (I'm back!)
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Lithgow, NSW, Australia
Posts: 5,042
Default

Kuno, may I ask a question? Libya has recently re-opened it's borders to tourists, but only it seems for those tourists on organised tours. Free roaming does not seem to be readily accepted yet for independant travellers. We have seen your tantalising pictures from many visits to Libya, both here and published in books (Barce raid, for one). Can I ask, do you travel with an organised operator, or do you yourself organise these tours? If you organise these trips, or know of an operator that conducts trips with a "wartime" interest, perhaps it might be of interest to make that information known here on MLU.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 30-12-07, 16:28
Kuno Kuno is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Libya... most of the Time
Posts: 536
Default

Hi Tony; the truth is a little bit a mix of all your assumptions. Since I am interested in the country, the desert and naturally as well in the desert war - what else than to discover it. Most of the kilometres driven were without any organization, even alone (and with just a normal personal car ) but in the meantime I could share my knowledge to other interested people several times and have organized such tours. I will not do it as my profession but only if it is of interest for me as well and if it is not already covered by "normal" tralel agencies (Libyan and other ones). About 9 years of chasing of the traces of the desert war ...and still... there are always some rumors about another wreck etc....

However; if other people come for a tour with me, then I ask for the services of a local travel agency as well; just to not have the hassle of organizing the trucks and getting the permissions etc.

You have asked for the website (in German language):

www.watani-travel.com

And this is "my space" on this site:

http://www.watani.ch/index.php?optio...d=15&Itemid=46

Do not bother about the German language (only one of the brochures is in English)... they understand English & Arabicas well (and I am also available for translation).

As a tourist, you hardly have the chance to enter the country without an invitation of a travel agency and then followed by the company of one of the travel agency for the whole trip. This is the rule - I cannot change it

Last edited by Kuno; 30-12-07 at 20:42.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 30-12-07, 18:19
zemsi's Avatar
zemsi zemsi is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 870
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Kuno

You have asked for the website (in German language):

www.watani.travel.com
... think that's the correct link:
www.watani-travel.com
__________________
Swiss Chris aka Christoph Zimmerli - Driving Switzerland's only Aussie F15


www.wheelsandtracks.com
>> Condor A580 M+85691 (1952), Swiss Army Motorbike (unrestored)
>> F15 1942 Aust (Cab 13) ::: restored by Keefy
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 30-12-07, 20:41
Kuno Kuno is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Libya... most of the Time
Posts: 536
Default

Danke Zemsi! Have corrected it
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 06-05-08, 00:25
Kuno Kuno is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Libya... most of the Time
Posts: 536
Default

So; after a long planning period and running for permissions, I have the chance again to "drive out there". Temperatures are forecasted to be slightly about 40 degree in average and the longest distance between two fuel stations is about 1'300kms. Hope that all will run well and as foreseen (and that I can bring back at least some pics of lost trucks - hopefully not one of ours!). The route will not strictly follow the traces of the LRDG (and their Italian oponent) but the LRDG will be our "main topic". First of all we want to verify the conclusions and "new information" we got during the research for our book and in addition we hope to see a TV docu about the LRDG and our journey soon...
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 21-05-08, 12:08
Kuno Kuno is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Libya... most of the Time
Posts: 536
Default

Done :-)

Temperatures went up to 51 degree centigrade. On engine, one raditor and one gearbx have left us and two people got problems with the heat. Fuel stations closed. Short on water. 2 out 3 days were enriched wth "sandy air" and the route had to be changed several times - but finally we got all what we want; the filmcrew is very happy and Brendan O'Carroll even more. Need some rest and will post then a short overview about the trip here...

(And: one of the New Zealanders could explain to me what "Vegemite" is!)
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 21-05-08, 13:04
Mike K's Avatar
Mike K Mike K is offline
Fan of Lord Nuffield
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Victoria, Australia
Posts: 5,860
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kuno View Post
(And: one of the New Zealanders could explain to me what "Vegemite" is!)
Dont ever ask a kiwi about vegemite .. you will get a rude answer , something to do with how thay pronounce 'vowels'

Mike
__________________
1940 cab 11 C8
1940 Morris-Commercial PU
1941 Morris-Commercial CS8
1940 Chev. 15cwt GS Van ( Aust.)
1942-45 Jeep salad
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 21-05-08, 13:15
Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP)'s Avatar
Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP) Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP) is offline
former OC MLU, AKA 'Jif' - sadly no longer with us
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 5,400
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kuno View Post
Done :-)
(And: one of the New Zealanders could explain to me what "Vegemite" is!)
Vegemite is Australian, not Kiwi... and if you do a search for the word here you'll get 141 threads which mention it. Have fun! Don't say I didn't warn you...

BTW, we look forward to seeing your pics and hearing about your trek!
__________________
SUNRAY SENDS AND ENDS
:remember :support
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 21-05-08, 13:44
Kuno Kuno is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Libya... most of the Time
Posts: 536
Default

The Kiwis have mentioned that the Australians use / eat Vegemite as well. BtW. I told them the joke about the female Gorilla in the Melbourne Zoo :witch
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 21-05-08, 16:53
Tony Smith's Avatar
Tony Smith Tony Smith is offline
No1, Mk 2** (I'm back!)
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Lithgow, NSW, Australia
Posts: 5,042
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff Winnington-Ball View Post
Vegemite is Australian, not Kiwi... and if you do a search for the word here you'll get 141 threads which mention it.
Vegemite IS Australian, New Zealand has it's own spread, which REALLY IS an acquired taste:
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_0948.JPG (50.0 KB, 30 views)
__________________
You can help Keep Mapleleafup Up! See Here how you can help, and why you should!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 22:56.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Maple Leaf Up, 2003-2016