CMP Diesel Conversions???

[BEN-RIPPINGHAM]

Thanks for that Lang, i think the engine you've mentioned perkins 6354 is the same motor as the perkins phazor which is used in dodge/renault 50s? You can pick up these dodge/renault 50s very cheap so this looks like the way forward. Have you any pics of the trucks you've mentioned so i can see how they've done this engine/box conversion with regards to mounting and coupling to the transfer box?

regards

ben.

[Lang]

Ben,

Sorry but I don't have any images of the conversion or the various owners names. The vehicles I saw were owned by farmers and commercial people, not collectors. There was a C-15A radio van with a Perkins all done up like a motorhome going around Australia a few years back. I don't know what became of that.

Even a P6 which was the forerunner to the 6354 would be OK. You might get one out of an old tractor but I think they were only 100hp. Ford and Leyland made very similar size 120hp diesel engines but I think the Perkins is the pick of the bunch for reliability, parts availability and cost.

I am a bit of a fan of them having one in my first truck when I was 18 back in the 60's - a Commer semi-trailer. You would be laughed off the highway now with 120hp and 45mph. If you don't have a minimum of 400hp dragging a B-Double and able to maintain 60mph on all but the steepest hills you are not in the game. Have also had several 6354's in boats since.

[malcolm erik bogaert]

Ben there is a guy advertising some CMP spares on Milweb at the moment he has a P6 bellhousing for CMP which may be usefull regards malcolm

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Here's a C60L with Perkins diesel engine, might be worthwile for you to check out:
Chevrolet CMP 4X4 WW 2 Truck. Item number: 280205826673

Chevrolet CMP 4x4 1942 ?. This Truck Needs Total Restoration ( But Not For The Faint Hearted ) or would be useful for spares . Also it is fitted with a Perkins P6 Diesel Engine. I Do Not Have The Original Petrol Engine.

There is a Old Type Log Book, (V5). Reg No. LPH 302, date of first registration is 1947 when it was sold in Auction after the war. The wheels fitted on the truck at the moment are not the correct ones, The Correct ones are on a pallet shown in the pictures.

As far as i can work out the truck is about 1942.

Please Phone 01264 323629 or mail me if you have any questions. Thanks John.

Please Note. This is Cash On Collection

[james walker]

I met a guy in Alice Springs in 1996 who was working as a mobile diesel mechanic. He had a Chevy Blitz as his workshop with an Isuzu diesel conversion in it. I think it had the Isuzu gear box attatched as well.

Nice vehicle, painted white, complete with winch. no more info to hand.

James

[BEN-RIPPINGHAM]

Well i've narrowed it down to either:

* Perkins 4236 + 5 speed box
* Perkins 6247 + 5 speed box

Both engines were fitted to dodge 50's so are cheap and readily available. I've heard that the 6247 has less torque than the 4236 and has a non-to-reliable pump as well as hard to find parts? So perhaps better off with the slighty less smooth but more relable 4 cylinder (Phazor) 4236 engine.

Any further thoughts folks???

[malcolm erik bogaert]

Ben a few years back I fitted a 4 cylinder perkins(Phaser) from an ex electric board Dodge into a 1956 Volvo Sugga...its still running well !regards malcolm

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Here's a C60L with Perkins diesel engine, might be worthwile for you to check out:
Chevrolet CMP 4X4 WW 2 Truck. Item number: 280205826673

Sold for £350.00 to "amacck".

H.

[sth65pac]

Ben

Here in good old Oz we have a LOT of 1970's Landcruisers. They have a very suitable diesel engine for CMPS. A history lesson shows that Toyota 'borrowed' many ideas from the Chev in Line 6.

You might consider a 70's Landcruiser engine. I am fairly sure that the bellhousing is the same (surprise, surprise) as a CMP. In fact I know of a member who had a Petrol Landy engine in a C60S, & it was a powerful beasty!

They (landcruisers) were available here in both Diesel and Petrol depending on your taste.
A bit cheaper than a Nissan TD42. So Ben you are on the right track!

Ian

[Keith Webb]

Originally Posted by sth65pac

You might consider a 70's Landcruiser engine. I am fairly sure that the bellhousing is the same (surprise, surprise) as a CMP. In fact I know of a member who had a Petrol Landy engine in a C60S, & it was a powerful beasty!

Not only that, but it's available if anyone is interested in a 'powerful' C60S with winch. Give me a PM for details.