population of Toronto CANADA

[Mike K]

Originally Posted by Richard Notton

Must rush and check my rubbish bin, wouldn't want the lid ajar would we, I can do without a criminal record:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...e_id=1770&ct=5

Welcome to the madhouse.

R.

(Now, why do I want to leave?)

It's getting like that here . A suburban council in Sydney NSW, is experimenting with micro chips in ratepayers plastic wheelie bins . They want to know the breakdown of rubbish by weight , and whos rubbish it is . A Melbourne suburban council , checking on the ratepayers , would hire a aircraft and check out backyards for illegal construction of garages, outhouses or sheds . The '1984' premise has come to haunt us all, George Orwell got it right all those years ago. Sadly, his theoretical imagined world is now our ' real ' world .What a thinker he was . Animal Farm, my fav. I've seen many humans who think and act like those pigs .

Richard, sometimes , it takes me a while to decipher your words , I get the point of it most of the time .. I'm a high school dropout , go easy .

Mike

Originally Posted by Mike Kelly

It's getting like that here . A suburban council in Sydney NSW, is experimenting with micro chips in ratepayers plastic wheelie bins . They want to know the breakdown of rubbish by weight , and whos rubbish it is .

You're catching up in the New World then, been done here. People have already been prying them off and thus going to court for criminal damage too.

When they do mine I'll not touch it, however, I can generate 1kW of RF from 1.8MHz to 29.5MHz, pair of 4X250's or four 572B's, whatever you fancy; I wonder how good their chips are for EMC?

A Melbourne suburban council , checking on the ratepayers , would hire a aircraft and check out backyards for illegal construction of garages, outhouses or sheds .

And that too has been the norm here for many years now.

The '1984' premise has come to haunt us all, George Orwell got it right all those years ago. Sadly, his theoretical imagined world is now our ' real ' world .What a thinker he was . Animal
Farm, my fav. I've seen many humans who think and act like those pigs .

Quite so.

Richard, sometimes , it takes me a while to decipher your words , I get the point of it most of the time .. I'm a high school dropout , go easy .

Oh dear, too old to change the obtuseness now; anyway gives you something to wile away the time. . . . . . . . . .



R.

[Jon Skagfeld]

Mike, now that you've read Richard's and Sunray's comments, perhaps you'll realize our collective frustration about the "overwhelmingness" of the immigrant situation.

We are getting (gotten?) swamped with Third World people who share neither our altruism nor our values. They use our countries as "flags of convenience" and profess allegiance only to their own country, notwithstanding the flagrant attempts to introduce their home land ideology on us...i.e. Sharia law, kirpan usage, blatant jihadism, etc.

Mike, I recall some 40+ years ago that I toyed with the idea of moving to Oz. My queries with the Embassy resulted in a no-go situation since Oz was on a major contruction spree and only tradesmen were allowed in. As part of this revelation, I learned that your borders were strictly closed to Third World "undesirables".

So, a question for you...What the hell happened to that policy?

[Mike K]

Hi Jon,

Touchy topic isn't it . I'm not against migration as a concept . My grandfather was born in British colony known as Victoria , where I now live .This country has evolved from a motely collection of criminals, misfits , the dregs of British society some say . Irish rebels too, transported to the colonies . The British army actually tried to gain control of the NSW colony at one stage , the rum rebellion , they tried to overthrow the governor , the Kings man here . There are bad eggs in every culture , from any historical age or geographic location , it's been going on since we lived in caves , human nature . It's always the mad minority that cause the trouble . Christianity has had its mad zealots too .The present Catholic church is wholly hypoctical in practice .


The current mass migration trend , is crazy . Transplanting large numbers of people from A to B solves nothing in the long run. Tim Flannery , noted scientist , ( Australian of the year last year ), my old school friend , says Australia's population should be about 10 million max. Polititians want it to be 50 million . They are having major problems with water here , lots of debate over Melbourne's water supply , and the population is growing by 60K each year. Bob Birrell from Monash uni , predicted all this 30 years ago . In 1973 I attended a lecture by him , his foresight was ignored . Much land here is salt affected too , they try to farm land that isn't viable . Growing rice and cotten uses large amounts of water , madness . Why grow rice here .

Mike

Originally Posted by Mike Kelly

Hi Jon,

Tim Flannery , noted scientist , ( Australian of the year last year ), my old school friend , says Australia's population should be about 10 million max. Polititians want it to be 50 million .

Hold that thought for a moment. . . . . . . .

Perhaps its fair to say Oz is big. (over 7.5 million km²)

Perhaps its fair to say the UK is small therefore. (0.242 million km² - slightly smaller than Oregon)

From the (UK) Office of National Statistics:

UK population 2006 - 60,587,000
UK immigration 2006 - 591,000 of which 510,000 are non-British.

Like I said Mike, hold that thought.

Sources:
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?ID=6
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=260

R.

[cletrac (RIP)]

Here's some tidbits about Canada from this site.
http://atlas.nrcan.gc.ca/site/englis...ergeneral.html
The total area of Canada is 9 984 670 square kilometres
The Great Lakes - Superior, Michigan, Huron, Erie and Ontario - are the largest group of freshwater lakes in the world. They have a total surface area of 245 000 square kilometres.
That puts the Great Lakes just a little bigger than the UK.

[chris vickery]

I read recently that the population of Toronto now consists of > 50% foreigners. That is to say, non-native born Canadians.

Good luck to our Conservative government who wants to try and undo some of the Liberal pro-refugee mess that was created.
Best I can tell, the PC Gov»'t wants to fast track immigrants by picking and choosing who we accept, regardless of their place on the waiting list. If we need to have immigrants, picking people by skill, ability and need sounds a whole lot better than letting in refugee deadbeats by the boatload.

I remember my father saying that in the 1960's, immigration policy was to accept 90% skilled labour and 10% refugees with little or no skill. Now in the year 2008, we let almost anyone in to become a burden to an already overloaded system, all on the backs of Canadian taxpayers. What really burns my a** is when Foreign Affairs acts to protect and bend over backwards to support "citizens" of Canada who perpitrate crimes etc on foreign soil. Hey, wake up, these citizenships were "granted" and as far as I'm concerned should be stripped just as quickly in extreme cases. Anyone heard of the Khadr case??? Glad we're paying to support the rest of his proven Al-qaida
family in Toronto...

Originally Posted by chris vickery

I read recently that the population of Toronto now consists of > 50% foreigners. That is to say, non-native born Canadians.

sounds a whole lot better than letting in refugee deadbeats by the boatload.

Luxury.

We have a drain pipe discharging in Dover.

I remember my father saying that in the 1960's, immigration policy was to accept 90% skilled labour and 10% refugees with little or no skill. Now in the year 2008, we let almost anyone in to become a burden to an already overloaded system,

Ah, he knew of Enoch Powell too then.

"Its like watching a nation busily engaged in heaping up its own funeral pyre" - 21 April 1968

R.

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Originally Posted by chris vickery

I read recently that the population of Toronto now consists of > 50% foreigners. That is to say, non-native born Canadians.

Good luck to our Conservative government who wants to try and undo some of the Liberal pro-refugee mess that was created.
Best I can tell, the PC Gov»'t wants to fast track immigrants by picking and choosing who we accept, regardless of their place on the waiting list. If we need to have immigrants, picking people by skill, ability and need sounds a whole lot better than letting in refugee deadbeats by the boatload.

I remember my father saying that in the 1960's, immigration policy was to accept 90% skilled labour and 10% refugees with little or no skill. Now in the year 2008, we let almost anyone in to become a burden to an already overloaded system, all on the backs of Canadian taxpayers. What really burns my a** is when Foreign Affairs acts to protect and bend over backwards to support "citizens" of Canada who perpitrate crimes etc on foreign soil. Hey, wake up, these citizenships were "granted" and as far as I'm concerned should be stripped just as quickly in extreme cases. Anyone heard of the Khadr case??? Glad we're paying to support the rest of his proven Al-qaida
family in Toronto...

Chris..
and in Canada ,where the chances of growing old are very good,the birth rate is now bringing on second generation children that still consider them selves to be (Fill in the Blank) citizens,not Canadian,but where ever they crawled in from...and they breed like flies.....and survive....
Not like back in (Fill in The Blank) where the Four Horsemen are doing their job...

Originally Posted by cletrac

Here's some tidbits about Canada from this site.
http://atlas.nrcan.gc.ca/site/englis...ergeneral.html
That puts the Great Lakes just a little bigger than the UK.

Q.E.D.

The defence rests its case.

R.