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Old 20-05-08, 03:22
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Ah the Barn......

First small recovery of the season..... Grant stumbled on a 235 Chev 1957 in some small classified ads.

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With a dumb look on my face I ask, what is the significance of a 235 cu in Chev' motor from 1957 to a wartime CMP, other than having fun running it on a test stand?

And a word of caution, remember museum exhibits are frequently wrong. A good friend of mine from university works/worked at the new CWM. He is a history graduate with a long background of working at publically funded museums. He hasn't served (and gasp, would never serve) a day in uniform. Except for bubbling enthusiasm for museums, he is utterly the wrong sort of person to have building displays at the CWM. In his case, he is enough of a scheming careerist to have angled himself out of The Children's Museum at the Museum of Civilization and to the newer and popular War Museum.

That said, if it is khaki and has a provenance as a military artifact, the curators will put it on display. Small and attractive, plus having a female or minority cultural involvement is even better. We rivet counters will spot the faults a mile away and get annoyed. But if the average pimply high schooler leaves the museum knowing there was a war and Canada was part of it, then perhaps the curators have done their job.
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Old 20-05-08, 03:42
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...But if the average pimply high schooler leaves the museum knowing there was a war and Canada was part of it, then perhaps the curators have done their job.
Target round. At our last visit to the CWM, we discussed this point with Jim Whitham, Collections Manager, Transportation and Artillery. Unless a museum is given unlimited funds and a full time expert work force, there will be "inconsistencies". Now, CMP experts such as ourselves will notice minor "faults", but your average Joe won't. In all, I commend Jim and his crew for being able to keep their heads above water.
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Old 20-05-08, 04:02
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With a dumb look on my face I ask, what is the significance of a 235 cu in Chev' motor from 1957 to a wartime CMP, other than having fun running it on a test stand?
As it happens, I have more chassis than motors. The 235 is very similar to the 216 in size, shape and appearance and even shares some parts with the 216. This isn't surprising since the 235 (and later the 261) were derived from the 216. Since the 235 is more plentiful than the 216, has a better oiling system, is a bit more powerful and can be made to look even more like a wartime motor with some careful fakery I feel that it is an allowable liberty to substitute one for the other, so long as you are honest about it.
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Old 21-05-08, 05:07
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Hi Terry

I take it you are back from your tour somewhere that action is...... glad to see you made it back.

So when are we going to have your visit at the barn....???

For the uninformed Terry has also acquired a circa 1970 Canadian Jeep similar to Clive's..... now the race is on to see who gets theirs on the road first.

The Rotters usually hold office on weekends at the barn..... let me know when you can make it over so we make sure we are around and not scrounging CMP in the back roads.....

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Old 21-05-08, 05:45
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I have fallen from way high..... I stooped and got meeself my first CMP Ford.

Not much to speak of but it's a start.... basically a rolling chassis which had been modified to convert into an articulated log skidder. Now the hunt may be on for more bits and pieces.....

The previous owner had cut the frame in half and using a regular CMP Chev rear axle devised a swivel based on the bearing hub of the axle.

Sad to say we towed it around the field and the beast cannot be steered in a straight line..... it tend to crab side ways...... inherent flaw is the owner lined up the swivel to be parallel to the drive shafts for obvious reasons.... doing so means the swivel is not centered on the frame but to the right....just enough for a disaster...... as it rolls around if the front axle hits a bump it twists one way and has the rear wheels reach the same bump it twists the other way....almost like an alligator crawl....

...but it has a good tranny and bell housing.....axles...T-case... and various assorted parts....

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Old 23-05-08, 05:42
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For the uninformed Terry has also acquired a circa 1970 Canadian Jeep similar to Clive's ..... now the race is on to see who gets theirs on the road first.
I bought Clive's Service Pubs book on the M38 and M38A1 Jeep in Canadian Service. Does that get me ahead by a nose? And I found an old RP4 can opener wedged under the seat. Best can opener EVER!

The job of a househusband is never done. The driveway shelter collapsed under the weight of 4 metres of snow last winter. After two part days of futssing around trying to salvage parts off a neighbour's whose shelter also collapsed, I relented and contacted the manufacturer. The Residential Sergeant Major's Mustang car needs some attention. The snowblower needs attention. The boy's school is having its fundraiser yard sale ..... I have some drywall work inside the house ... 70-08876 M38A1CDN3 will have to wait.

However, on the bright side I spent $10 and used the Access to Information Act to learn more about the Jeep. For $5 I got a list of the other CFR #s that were surplused at the same time. I quote the CFR and ask for the VMO message. For $5 I learned there are no maintenance records available, but I will keep probing the archives for info.
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Old 23-05-08, 06:25
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Hi Terry

You will need a detailed shop manual....sooner or later..... if only to confuse you better........

You might want to spin the engine over after removign the plugs ans squirting some light oil in each cylinder..... may be dry after the long Winter.

Once a week walking around with a can of WD 40 and hitting every nut you can see or feel may need working on soon will help......

Let us know if we can help or when you can drift over on a weekend.

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Old 25-05-08, 03:37
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After a long period of lawlessness, the Hammond Trio were rounded up by the one and only Clive Law. Clive's visit was for the purpose of leading Bob and Grant to the wilds of Quebec (south of Mount Royal) to organize the pick up Clive's Jeep. After the requisite Chez Marie feeding (where two new waitresses are now employed - a motorcycle momma, and a pretty youngun who kept walking into the chairs), we loaded the trailer and stores. Bob had some chores to complete, so he joined us at around 2 PM.

Bob, Grant and Clive were last seen heading south to the states for the southern passage to the Montreal area - I had domestic duties and had to pout and wave as they left Hammond.

It is expected that the Jeep will spend a few weeks around the Hammond barn getting some work completed before heading off to CC. At least that was the plan this morning.

A shot of Clive looking expectant, Bob looking giddy as ever and Grant wondering how he was going to manage both of them.

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Old 25-05-08, 03:51
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Early mornings at the barn are usually quiet affairs. Today was different - the Hammond Airforce was out in numbers that make the 1000 bomber plans of WWII look small. There were so many skeeders flying around that if a fella had two slices of bread and clapped them together, he could have a good meat sandwich.

After drowning myself in DEET and other wonders of the chemical world, I got down to business. After refurbishing the gas petal and mount, a few old tools and lots of nuts and bolts, I decided to attach the windshield mounts to the HUP.









It may not seem to be overly significant, but it was (constantly interrupted by slapping of bugs) progress.
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