Differences between Bedford OYC and OYD

[mlombard]

Could anybody please tell me the difference between a Bedford OYC and OYD. With two provisos, I can only use the cab chassis to look for the difference i.e. there is no tray, petrol tanker etc on the chassis, AND I only have an engine number to work off, there is no chassis number I can find (have been told that these were under the step on the drivers side). So I think it comes down to possibilities like extra holes in the chassis at certain points etc will be the only way to tell. Oh yes I'm new to Bedford OY's so any help would be gratefully appreciated.

[Lynn Eades]

Hi, and welcome Mlombard! Do you have a name? and which part of Australia are you in? (It helps other people to open up and be more helpful to you) This is probably the most easy going friendly forum (of this type) that you could join. Enjoy!

[Richard Farrant]

Originally Posted by mlombard

Could anybody please tell me the difference between a Bedford OYC and OYD. With two provisos, I can only use the cab chassis to look for the difference i.e. there is no tray, petrol tanker etc on the chassis, AND I only have an engine number to work off, there is no chassis number I can find (have been told that these were under the step on the drivers side). So I think it comes down to possibilities like extra holes in the chassis at certain points etc will be the only way to tell. Oh yes I'm new to Bedford OY's so any help would be gratefully appreciated.

Hi,
The OYD was the standard GS Cargo body version. The OYC was supplied as chassis cab for contractors to fit special bodies to, such as tankers, etc.
The chassis number is normally stamped on the side of the chassis on passenger side, normally behind the step or towards back of cab. Best not ot use a sander as stamping is not very deep quite often.

[Mike Cecil]

G'day, Matthew - welcome to the forum.

Mike

[mlombard]

Originally Posted by Richard Farrant

Hi,
The OYD was the standard GS Cargo body version. The OYC was supplied as chassis cab for contractors to fit special bodies to, such as tankers, etc.
The chassis number is normally stamped on the side of the chassis on passenger side, normally behind the step or towards back of cab. Best not ot use a sander as stamping is not very deep quite often.

Hi Richard
I've had some help from a chap in the UK with an OYD who told me to look under the step,, which I did, and yes I did have to sand the paint back, but nothing. I'll have another look, can you tell me if it at the top or bottom of the chassis side rail, The closer I get to where it should be the lighter I'll sand it. Thanks for the info though.

[Mike Cecil]

Unfortunately, the DHB is no help in the ID - they are simply marked 'Model OY', so were universal to all the OY configurations.

Matt, I unearthed a copy the other day while doing an inventory of the smaller books and booklets in the reference collection. I'll scan a copy & send via Wetransfer eventually.

Mike

[mlombard]

Originally Posted by Mike Cecil

Unfortunately, the DHB is no help in the ID - they are simply marked 'Model OY', so were universal to all the OY configurations.

Matt, I unearthed a copy the other day while doing an inventory of the smaller books and booklets in the reference collection. I'll scan a copy & send via Wetransfer eventually.

Mike

Thanks Mike I sincerely appreciate all your help with this, great history this

[Richard Farrant]

Hi Matt,
If you have not got it, this is a 'must have' book for a Bedford enthusiast. A wealth of very good information in it and good photos.
http://www.abebooks.com/book-search/isbn/0723228752/

cheers Richard

[Richard Farrant]

Originally Posted by mlombard

Hi Richard
I've had some help from a chap in the UK with an OYD who told me to look under the step,, which I did, and yes I did have to sand the paint back, but nothing. I'll have another look, can you tell me if it at the top or bottom of the chassis side rail, The closer I get to where it should be the lighter I'll sand it. Thanks for the info though.

The numbers are always on the passenger side (you mentioned drivers side originally) and on the vertical face of chassis member, might be back slightly from the step. Are there any other plates in the cab or engine side of bulkhead? A small plate with the words Contract No. and Cat. Ref. can be of great help if you have them. There is a chap in one of the South Australian military vehicle clubs with an OY, he is called Richmond Gregory, he might be able to help you.

regards, Richard

[mlombard]

Hi Richard

It's Richmond's truck I have purchased, he had a quite modern tray on it which was sold off first, so I'm looking to replace it with an original style ? . Mike tells me that the references he has do list a tanker but as he said it is all very sketchy. Yes your right I did say drivers side, but I also checked the passengers side but as i is definitely the passengers side now I go back and re-examine that even closer. Thanks for the verification on this.

[mlombard]

Hi All
Thanks for the welcome, my name is Matthew Lombard and live in Birdwood, South Australia, the Bedford is my latest interest, had other vehicles previously but this one was something that really interested me. I'm appealed with the history possibly surrounding this vehicle,, but at the moment just really want to know what it was i.e. OYC Petrol tanker or OYD GS Truck. Mike Cecil has been most helpful in trying to unravel the vehicles past, which is still 'up in the air'. So at the moment I'm trying to work the other way round and work out what it is.

[Lionelgee]

Originally Posted by mlombard

Could anybody please tell me the difference between a Bedford OYC and OYD. With two provisos, I can only use the cab chassis to look for the difference i.e. there is no tray, petrol tanker etc on the chassis, AND I only have an engine number to work off, there is no chassis number I can find (have been told that these were under the step on the drivers side). So I think it comes down to possibilities like extra holes in the chassis at certain points etc will be the only way to tell. Oh yes I'm new to Bedford OY's so any help would be gratefully appreciated.

Hello M. Lombard,

It seems that Rick is the only person who has complied to an informal MLU rule throughout this thread. In that, photographs act just like pictures ... they paint a thousand words.

Could you please post up some photographs of your vehicle?

Kind Regards
Lionel

[lynx42]

Here are some photos of the OY the day I first saw it in 1996/7. The farmer told me it was either 1942 or 1943.

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I was far more interested in what was hiding up in the stack of old rain water tanks at the top of the hill, seen here top left in the back ground. It was the remains of a Canadian Scout Car Ford Lynx Mk.III*.

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Anyway we recovered the old girl and as I said, passed it on to Tony L. in SA. who passed it on to Richmond G. and then it went on to Matt L.

Regards Rick.

[Lionelgee]

Originally Posted by lynx42

Here are some photos of the OY the day I first saw it in 1996/7. The farmer told me it was either 1942 or 1943.

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I was far more interested in what was hiding up in the stack of old rain water tanks at the top of the hill, seen here top left in the back ground. It was the remains of a Canadian Scout Car Ford Lynx Mk.III*.

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Anyway we recovered the old girl and as I said, passed it on to Tony L. in SA. who passed it on to Richmond G. and then it went on to Matt L.

Regards Rick.

Hello Rick & Matt,

Thanks for posting the photographs of Matt's Bedford. I was thinking that the vehicle would be a cab-over variety the QL. Gee Bedford did not exercise their design crew very much from the OY model to come up with the shape of the "TJ" Series Bedfords did they!

I used to be in charge of the tree gang in a city council and we had the a "TJ" series Bedford as a water tanker. Plus we had a cab over TK Bedford, converted refuse truck as the wood chip vehicle as we had our own wood chipper.

The first vehicle I ever drove was my step granddad's TJ2 Bedford so I have a passing interest in the old Bedfords.

Kind Regards
Lionel

[mlombard]

Hi Sorry for not posting photos,, now that I think what I am doing I'll try some general photos of the truck.