wreckers and recovery

[Wpns 421]

Originally Posted by Lionelgee

G'day Les,

Just wondering if you can remember the source of where you found this photo of a CMP light recovery truck? If so could you please forward it to me - thank you.

Kind Regards
Lionel

there is a light CMP recovery truck at the Canadian War Museum.

[Lionelgee]

Originally Posted by Wpns 421

there is a light CMP recovery truck at the Canadian War Museum.

Thank you both for the reply.

Kind Regards
Lionel

[Lionelgee]

Hello MLU-ers,
I just found this link to a YouTube video of a F650L Light Recovery truck with a Holmes twin boom arrangement. It was posted by garyawallace's Channel

It is good to see one actually moving around and making that nice V8 rumble.

http://www.youtube.com/user/garyawal.../1/ZbeZLD88nC4

Is Gary A. Wallace a member of MLU?

Enjoy

Kind Regards
Lionel

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Originally posted by Les Freathy
This thread has got off to a good start but there must be plenty more out there to be included, here are a couple more preserved Diamond T 969 wreckers the first if my memory serves me right is at Duxford it must have been at least 15 years ago. The second is at one of the very early IMPS rallies then held at the steam railway at Tenterden in Kent, Richard will remember these days i was on the committe then and trying to get that lot to form up for the arena was a nightmare. The venue was set on steep slopes with a vally in the centre so you could observe what all the others were up to without moving, all good fun though
Les

Les..
One of our posters here at MLU is CWO Bill Mulholland...A.K.A..Uncle BILL ,Willy,and "Hey You"(By his good woman...)..
Bill knows more about Diamond "T"'s than anyone else in the Universe,including Newfoundland...
Bill has his own ,fully restored working model DT wrecker sitting in his shop at home in Beautiful down town Burton ,New Brunswick..
He has posted a few pictures of it before on MLU but he would be the ideal guy to get to do a magazine article for your mag...
He is a pretty humble guy so you may have to beg...
But he knows his DT's...
.

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Les
This is the granddaddy of the tractors in WW2,the Pacific Car And Foundry M26.....
Used in conjunction with the M25 40 Ton Trailer
It's purpose was to recover and transport tanks and material up to 80,000 pounds..
Had a Hall-Scott model 440 6 cyl. 1,090 C.I.D. 270
BHP engine...
Canada was still using them until at least 1960.

[Burts.22]

Here is one the mighty Dragon Wagon in action retreaving a Sherman.

Best regards,
Bertus.

[Burts.22]

A beautyfull restored example at the National War & Resistance Museum at Overloon, Netherlands.

Best regards,
Bertus.

[Richard Farrant]

Originally posted by Les Freathy
And the two superb K6 recoverys owned by the R.E.M.E collection, these are the ones that Richard was involved with so he can add a story to the restoration that OK Richard.

The two Austin K6 Breakdown Gantrys that Les has posted, were from the SEME Historic Vehicle Collection at Borden, subsequently the green one is now on display at the REME Museum in Arborfield, and the sand one was sold of as surplus to the collection, I believe.

They were both restored at the REME workshop where I worked, and was able to play a small part in this work. They were both taken down to the chassis and a full rebuild took place. The sand one was in the Warnham War Museum, many years ago before it came to SEME. Later I was able to drive the green one to military vehicle shows on a number of occasions.

Having a particular liking for Austins, I persuaded a friend to buy another K6 Gantry, and we took that to rallies in the Kent area, recently it was sold on to another member of this forum.

Richard

[sapper740]

I have two pictures, obviously taken sequentially, however, what isn't clear if the recovery vehicle is righting or overturning the other truck??!! Wouldn't the recovery truck be on the other side of the overturned truck if it was trying to set it back on it's wheels? A little FUBAR going on here methinks.

[sapper740]

Originally posted by sapper740
I have two pictures, obviously taken sequentially, however, what isn't clear if the recovery vehicle is righting or overturning the other truck??!! Wouldn't the recovery truck be on the other side of the overturned truck if it was trying to set it back on it's wheels? A little FUBAR going on here methinks.

And the next pic:

[sapper740]

Originally posted by sapper740
I have two pictures, obviously taken sequentially, however, what isn't clear if the recovery vehicle is righting or overturning the other truck??!! Wouldn't the recovery truck be on the other side of the overturned truck if it was trying to set it back on it's wheels? A little FUBAR going on here methinks.

Or is there another truck not seen in the shot to the right?

[cliff]

In the first photo it shows cables to the RHS suggesting to me that the main pull is from there with the truck on the left acting to stop the roll over vehicle from thumping down too hard when righted.

Cheers
Cliff

[Richard Farrant]

Derek,

Cliff is right.....the second picture should be the first one. The unseen wrecker pulling from the right has attached his winch rope to the chassis, the wrecker on the left is checking it from going over to fast. You can see the canopy still attached to the side and all the cargo laying in it, so it is not a posed shot.

Richard

[Bill Mulholland]

.....so I found it a friend. Recovering a 970A Ponton(Cargo) last Friday. I love going along at 35mph,slow, but pretty to watch, the pace life should be lived. The "T" likes to get a chance to show off and exercise once in a while.The only down side to this is "she who must be obeyed" will whine about the bumps in the back lawn when she is mowing next summer! I will atempt to attach a couple shots of the tow home, and a parade shot when it's all cleaned up(seen before on MLU). 64 and still quite capable!
Cheers,Bill

[Bill Mulholland]

the tow home...

[Bill Mulholland]

......her yard!

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Originally posted by Bill Mulholland
the tow home...

Bill.
What a beauty....!!
I just got in from Gracies..You were sorely missed..

[RHClarke]

Originally posted by Bill Mulholland
.....so I found it a friend. Recovering a 970A Ponton(Cargo) last Friday. I love going along at 35mph,slow, but pretty to watch, the pace life should be lived.

Bill, Nice shots! Especially with the water tower in the background. Brought back all sorts of fond memories...

I note with interest that you like to go big when you do stuff...is this a Freudian thing, or is it just because the only things available in the Burton/Oromocto area are the big rigs?

Thought of you at Gracies tonight. When is your next trip to Ottawa?

Rob

[Bill Mulholland]

Rob & Alex; Not a "size" envy thing at all. You folks in upper Canada, especially in the Hammond area have just about cornered the CMP market. Most of what is left in these parts is barely useable for patterns, so when a bold beauty like this comes along one must turn on the charm and make the first move,along with the swap of an elderly, but quite serviceable and under-utilized D4 dozer to add to the dowry. I tinkered most of last Saturday and got the Hercules firing on all 6, tried the clutch and all the levers moved it back and forth under it's own steam, main brakes a bit iffy which was cured by adjusting. Now that I know all systems more or less work, I'l have to decide what to put on the back, and then begin the long job of restoration. Definitely miss the gatherups at Gracie's, but with any luck I'll make a jaunt up before Christmas.
Cheers, Bill

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Originally posted by Bill Mulholland
Rob & Alex; Not a "size" envy thing at all. You folks in upper Canada, especially in the Hammond area have just about cornered the CMP market. Most of what is left in these parts is barely useable for patterns, so when a bold beauty like this comes along one must turn on the charm and make the first move,along with the swap of an elderly, but quite serviceable and under-utilized D4 dozer to add to the dowry. I tinkered most of last Saturday and got the Hercules firing on all 6, tried the clutch and all the levers moved it back and forth under it's own steam, main brakes a bit iffy which was cured by adjusting. Now that I know all systems more or less work, I'l have to decide what to put on the back, and then begin the long job of restoration. Definitely miss the gatherups at Gracie's, but with any luck I'll make a jaunt up before Christmas.
Cheers, Bill

Bill...
More info Bill...
What is the picture of..???
From the look of it someone loved it..
Is it a new little friend for the Big "T"...?
If that isn't an RXC Herc engine ..I'll eat it...
ANOTHER Diamond "T" 968A(Cargo)...969A(Wrecker)...970A(ponton) ...or a 972(Dump)...
The model #s are not for you BIll,But for our other readers that may n0t be so well informed onDT's as you...
As for your Ottawa trip,we sorely missed you at Gracies..
Your manuals are waiting for you and the rum and Tea(Real tea) is waiting at the Heron Rd Estate..
Post some more pix of your new "T"....

[Bill Mulholland]

Sorry about that Alex, it's a 970A, or at least it used to be. Some one in the past moved the rear suspension back about 4' and a p*&% poor job at that, cut out the rear cross member, I'm guessing to remove the pintle(too stupid to use a wrench). Not to worry, it will be my winter work project, and try and have it ready for the road in the Spring. The previous photo is of the engine room, a chum of mine cleaned it up some time ago and primed the bare metal bits, so that will make life easier. Don't know yet what will go on the back, but undoubtedly something recovery related. Got a huge winch gathering rust, so maybe a mini 980??????? I'll try to att a couple of more photos.
Cheers, Bill

Photo - A recy mech's favourite sport

[Burts.22]

Evening all!
Found this picture of a Dragon Wagon on my HD. I can't locate the source at the moment.

Best regards,
Bertus.

[Burts.22]

Here is one for the Diamond T fans. Source: US Army Signal Corps.

Best regards,
Bertus.

[RHClarke]

Originally posted by Burts.22
Here is one for the Diamond T fans. Source: US Army Signal Corps.

Best regards,
Bertus.

Kind of makes you wonder why they put lifiting rings/hooks/clevis on these vehicles...I guess the WWII army lifted differently than the navy/merchant marine?

[Les Freathy]

A few more for the wreck and recovery
1. a 6x4 gantry recovery with a Leyland Retriever on suspended tow

[Les Freathy]

CMP with Dial holmes equipment, Ford or Chev? loks like a CMP 3 tonner in the ditch

[Les Freathy]

Finally you dont see this every day or do you, a cmp wrecker towing a redundant Jap plane

[Rich Payne]

Sorry about the quality of this picture, originally sent in to "Classic Motorcycle" by a reader from NZ.




I can pick out a BSA WM20 and a Norton 16H in the back. Is a positive ID of the truck possible ?

Rich.

[cliff]

Originally posted by Rich Payne
Sorry about the quality of this picture, originally sent in to "Classic Motorcycle" by a reader from NZ.




I can pick out a BSA WM20 and a Norton 16H in the back. Is a positive ID of the truck possible ?

Rich.

looks like a Ford CMP 11 or 12 cab to me.

Cheers
Cliff

[Les Freathy]

Not sure if this will work very well but here are two photos of converted jeeps to the light recovery role, i enlarged them from a contact print so hope the details are suffice
cheers
Les