Removal of Starter Motor

[Neil Ashley]

Can any one comment please on how easy I am going to find taking the starter motor off my Canadian Mk11* Carrier.

I have removed the Tool Box, hopefully the Fuel Tank does not also need to be removed.

[kevin powles]

Neil, I think you will have to remove the tank, the starter is held on by two studs which pass the complete length of the starter and hold it all together so be careful not to let it all fall to bits on removal, I regret the day when I first removed one of these and received a blunt trauma to my left eye.

be careful.

kevin.

[shaun]

Neil, you should be able to get it off leaving all that in place and just removing the lower engine pannel by the statrer, remember the starter is forward of the fuel tank etc. its not to bad a job, i have done it on the side of the road before now.

[Ron Pier]

I didn't know you had a MK2 Neil? Send me some pictures sometime please.

I was getting ready to remove the starter on mine a few months back. I was also hoping to get away without taking the tank out. It looked possible! Which Shaun has confirmed. As you might remember. Mine is fitted with a 12V system and remote solenoid for the starter. It was in fact the solenoid that was the problem. Ron

[Neil Ashley]

Ron I have had my Mk11* for a long time but it has never moved out the garage. It must be one of the most complete in the country if you still need to measure up for anything.

It must be a very tight fit to actually withdraw it and trying to work out where the bolts are and how to get on to them was putting me off.

[Ron Pier]

Neil I'll have to come to Trowbridge one day!

For what's involved! It might be just as easy to remove the tank anyway. After squirming about in the confined areas of a carrier I always end up suffering with my gammy limbs. Ron

[Neil Ashley]

Finally got my Fuel Tank out yesterday which confirmed that my vehicle came out of the factory in March 1944 in Brown.

The only bolts I can see are the ones are the two in the end casing of the starter motor. Are these the studs which Kevin metions as they don't realy look large enough to be holding the starter motor to the bell housing?

I decided to take the Fuel Tank out to give myself a clearer view never having done it before. I also had the mechanical linkage to disconnect on a Mk11*.

[RichardT10829]

wonder if it was destined for Italy, or were other carriers European theatre painted in Scc No.2 ?

[Neil Ashley]

The Canadians changed colour officially when the British did in June 1944.
Actual dates must have varied depending on paint supplies.

The argument on whether or not vehicles were still still painted brown at the time of D Day has been discussed many times but the offical instruction certainly states not to repaint vehicles untill required.

[Lynn Eades]

Yes, two long bolts go right through.

[Neil Ashley]

And presumably the bell housing is threaded?

[Lynn Eades]

Your not considering the idea that Henry used a couple of loose nuts in there, are you?

[Neil Ashley]

Put the starter motor back on yesterday after considerable effort. Still amazed by how small the bolts are holding it to the bell housing and how relatively little thread holds the starter motor on.

The company I took it to could find no problem but obviously there must have been something preventing a good contact so it has now had a good clean.

[andrew honychurch]

Hi Neil,

I guess the strength in the way the starter is held ( I thought the same) is that it is pulled into the bell housing and locates in the recess, the screws therefore only really hold it in. Heck of job though working upside down. I have been adjusting my control rods on the T16 for the rear steering controls. Every time I re emerge my family wonder what has happened to me as my eyes go rather bulging from working upside down.

The restoration of my T16 has given me more of a workoout than any session in the GYM. Everytime I get in the thing to do a job I find the tool I need is outside or on the other side of the engine bay. I cannot tell you how many times I have got in and out of it!

[Neil Ashley]

I am still nursing the bruises of performing all sorts of unnatural contortions to gain access to where I needed to get. I also ended up finding I was crushing something painfull at one stage.

The bolts were not done up particularly tight when I removed it and fear of striping the threads restricted the pressure I put on them this time.

Can anyone confirm where the thin wire goes to which also attaches on the starter motor terminal? The driver hand boook does not include a deatailed wiring diagram.