Carrier Part Question

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[Eric Korhonen]

Brad

The one part you have that you are asking about off of the engine cover is is for a dip stick which was used for a gas guage.


Eric

[rob love]

Brad
The first part is the bracket which goes under the rear step. It holds one end of a a big pinch bar.
The bracket goes on the left rear engine cover. It holds a dipstick used to check the fuel levels.

You have some very nice pieces there; I am envious. Maybe I can talk you into leaving it as a mk2 and you can send me those brass bren stem mounts. (No? I didn't think so.)

[Lynn Eades]

To add to what you all ready have the strap fastened to the inside,wraps around the pinch bar and locates on the peg on the outside. Nice pictures - take more before you pull more apart.
Get yourself a manual and parts book. Have fun, keep posting pictures. Thanks,
Lynn.

[Barry Churcher]

Hi Brad
Here is a little history on your carrier. It was found just outside CFB Borden in the 80's. It was a runner but had no armour and a not so great track. It was taken to the base where it was mated to a MK11 that had armour, a good track and a bad engine. Instead of doing things the logical way the base workshops changed the armour : instead of the engine etc.When I aquired the carrier from the base I also got the extra carrier. It was a great hull with all the extra MK11 goodies. I changed the track and the carrier went to Holland ( Ruud Francissen)with a hull with complete armour. In Holland the engine was rebuilt and all the goodies transfered to the complete hull. I kept your carrier for a few years and had a lot of fun with it. It ran really well and looked not too bad. I lent it to
the Perth Regiment re-enactors and they saw fit to spray paint my bridge sign with grey primer so Les Fisher and Brian Gough painted it for me with what looks like the current colour.
I would appreciate if you could help me with the history of the sale. I am STILL trying to get paid for it from when I sold it.
Cheers,
Barry

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Originally posted by Brad Mills
Thanks for the info guys. Now I just need a pinch bar to go with the carrier.

Rob,

Wish I could send it your way, but looks like I need three more myself, plus the Bren mounting bar to go in it.

No chance of keeping it a mk II, it would bother me knowing its a mk I hull.

Manual and parts list on the way from Alex Blair, will be a big help once it arrives.

Brad

Brad..
Manuals are ready to ship express post..You'll have your answers this week..

[charlie fitton]

Alex,

The bits in the last photo are, c/w from top left,

Bracket for shovel handle,
Dvr seat back adjust
Grab handle
Carb / breather elbow
Chicken handle and rubber grip - (rare)
AA MG mount.

The re-numbered clip(s) are for the jacking pin

Any other bits to name?

[rob love]

Charlie
I think that item you identified as a shovel handle bracket is actually the bracket on the engine cover which holds one of the brass AA stem mounts. The shovel bracket has slots to allow for adjustment for some slight variations in shovel lengths.
If only the army had continued the use of such adjustable brackets; in all my years in the Cdn army, I don't think I ever got issued a shovel that actually fit into the brackets on either the M38A1s or the MLVWs. You had to disassemble the shovel and shorten the handles yourself.

Brad
As to the re-numbering of the lifting bar bracket, it makes sense to me. Supply techs were only good at matching numbers, and many weren't even good at that. They generally do not have the technical knowledge to know what a part actually is, so it is far easier to re-number the part than to heve to re-demand it a bunch of times.
Over the years in the Cdn army, I have received everything from life rafts to dental X-ray machines, to old reel to reel tape recorder parts, to a naval 3.50 gun turret mechanism, when what I was ordering was vehicle parts.

[Bill Mulholland]

...... well said Rob. Funny thing about NSNs and bin rats, how one part # will fit several items, none of them correct.
Cheers, Bill

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Originally posted by Alex Blair
Brad..
Manuals are ready to ship express post..You'll have your answers this week..

Brad..
Your manual went out express post this morning..The guessing games are over..

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Originally posted by Alex Blair
Brad..
Your manual went out express post this morning..The guessing games are over..

Make that "Manuals"..all four..Lots of info to catch up on..

[rob love]

Brad
The concesous around here was that the CMP type D rings on the rear armour were a post war addition on conversion to a mortar carrier. Several of the local mk2s had them, including (I think) the one that went out your way a couple of weeks ago from Stead.

The bracket looks like the bracket which bolts onto the right angle iron which makes up part of the engine cover. I think it was to secure the choke cable. Not sure if it was on a mk2, but was on a mk1.

[Col Tigwell]

Considering the amount of muck and water these units were operating in, why did the design not call for stainless steel exhaust systems.

Looking at the installations would the exhaust when rusty tend to fall apart sooner.

Excuse my ignorance, keen to learn but at 65 suddenly understanding that I really know little.

Looking at your work and attention to detail, this will be a nice carrier when you have finished. Wish you lived closer, would love to come and help.

Regards

Col Tigwell
Dowunder

[Lynn Eades]

Col, Stainless steel was a relatively new happening at that time.
You might notice on welds on mk 1 carriers that there is a lot of spatter. This I am told is because the old paper wrapped electodes required high amps to get them started. As a result of the difficulties of trying to weld armour plate, they went to stainless electrodes. My AOP Carrier No1 mk3W is built this way and the "W" in its designation is indicative of this construction method. I know the Aussies had trouble welding their LP2s/2a's but solved it in some other way. May be some one else more au-fait can shed more light on this for you.

[Nigel Watson]

Most have been identified so I'll try the others!


Photo 1
The strange oval bracket which looks like a wire tensioner is the aerial holder when it is stowed on the engine deck armour shield. There should be two. I also think the bracket that has a bend in it is the bracket for it to be attached to this armour plate, the bend being the part that goes over the L section which fixes the armour plate to the engine top cover on a MkI*. The armour plate is the vertical strip of armour on the engine deck meant to protect the 3rd crew member from nasties on his left!!


Photo 6
The bracket beside the handgrip is the bracket which is fixed onto the engine top cover near the front which the nice AA stem bracket is fixed to. There are four of the AA stem brackets on a MkI* and possibly five on the very early ones.


Photo 7
The T shaped bracket with the green end! I think is the 4ins smoke discharger trigger bracket which is fixed on the inside of the rear compartment in the corner below the aerial mount.

Hope this helps
Nigel