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My New Project C15A Water Truck
I just started a new project for the Georgina Military Museum (volunteer of coarse). It's a 1943 C15A Cab 13 Water Truck. Pictures will be coming. I don't have them here at the shop. Luckily I have a spot at my work to keep the truck and work on it over the winter when I have time. I'm going to have a lot of questions for everyone. Engine paint color etc... My first question does anyone have any photos they can post? The water truck doesn't appear very common. Thanks
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Here's some photos
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Hi Ian,
Great looking project. Something not seen every day, thats for sure. Looking forward to following your progress.
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Ford CMP, 115" WB,1942 (Under Restoration...still) Medium sized, half fake, artillery piece project. (The 1/4 Pounder) |
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finally resized some photos
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on YouTube
Hi Ian,
On YouTube there is a short clip of a 1943 C15A Water Truck driving down the road. The video was shot at the Caldwell Convoy event June 25, 2006. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o_R3bEkops I think this truck is now owned by a CMP collector in Moncton, New Brunswick. Brian |
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That's a great video. It's nice seeing it racing down the road.
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wheel base
Hi Ian,
Good looking unit, the original pic shows a 101" wheel base. What is the wheel base of your truck as it looks a bit long?
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Euan McDonald 4? C-GT (Aust) #8 44 C-GT (Aust) #9 42 Jeep, Trailer Aust 3 Welbike MK2 complete Welbike MK2 inconplete under resto C15A x3 C60S x1 ex ambo F60L x3 LP2a carrier SAR #4993. Trailer No27 Limber Trailer, Cario cargo Trailer, Pontoon semi Wiles Cooker 2 wheeled (jnr) |
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The frame had some extensions added but they'll be gone soon. I have somebody coming in to cut it out and set things up for the guy thats going to do the welding. For something like this I prefer to let a pro do the job, then I know it was done correctly. It is the original water truck frame though.
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Very nice project! Indeed, you don't see the Water tankers too much nowadays. I guess most water tanks ended up in farms and the trucks were fitted with homemade beds.
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Excellent project though Ian, please keep us updated on the progress. Alex
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Those are just the rims and tires that were on the truck when I received it. I have the proper rims to go on it.
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When I saw the truck a few years ago at Andrer's I don't recall thinking there was anything odd about the wheels, they look like CMP wheels.
The frame length question might be an illusion due to lack of fuel tanks and tin around the tank to fill up the space between cab and axle.... |
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Someone at one time though it was a good idea to add 24" to the center of the frame. The rims on it are just a set of 15' split rims.
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I have 2 quick questions
1. Whether I can get the engine running or not I need to paint it. Replacing would have to wait until the future. What do you call that color? 2. When it comes to the wiring harness this one is chopped to pieces. A new harness is not in my budget so would replacing wire by wire with modern wire work? I've done a 60's era muscle car that way in the past. Thanks for all your help. |
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Water CMP
Hi Ian.
Please have a look at my mystery shifter post again. We have the same type of CMP. Please let me know if I can assist you in any way. Svenn |
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Here are the pertinent pages from the DND parts list for the water truck and water trailer bodies.
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1940 Cab 11 C8 Wireless with 1A2 box & 11 set 1940 Cab 11 C8 cab and chassis 1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun 1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends 1941 Cab 12 F15A 1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5 1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box 1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box 1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP 1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box 1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor MkII Bren gun carrier chassis x 2 |
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Parts List
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1940 Cab 11 C8 Wireless with 1A2 box & 11 set 1940 Cab 11 C8 cab and chassis 1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun 1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends 1941 Cab 12 F15A 1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5 1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box 1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box 1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP 1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box 1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor MkII Bren gun carrier chassis x 2 |
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Rest of Parts List
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1940 Cab 11 C8 Wireless with 1A2 box & 11 set 1940 Cab 11 C8 cab and chassis 1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun 1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends 1941 Cab 12 F15A 1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5 1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box 1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box 1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP 1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box 1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor MkII Bren gun carrier chassis x 2 |
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Thank you everyone
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I thought something was wrong with this picture. Then it dawned on me, no starter switch.
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Do you need a starter switch
Hi Ian
Do you need a switch, most of the Chevy parts have them around $20 - $ 30 dollars US. Picture shown is the NAPA ECH ST11 which list for $54 and sells for $32. Also found them on http://www.obschevy.com/ for $19.95. The same switch was used on a lot of GM cars and trucks from 1931-1956 Cheers Phil
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I cleaned it up a little today, taking a cup of mud out of it might help a little.lol I'll PM you tonight Phil.
Thanks Ian |
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Good to hear feedback on parts sources
Hi Scott
Good to hear feedback on parts sources, see you have used some of the same ones I've have. Always wonder which of these US sources can and will actually ship out of the US so many don't. One more comment that I would add about a couple of these that I have used is if you don't find the part your looking for don't right them off as a source. I've fount that the ones that are actually dealing in NOS have a constantly changing stock. So if first you don't succeed check back later, I've had parts searches that have gone on for years before I actually found the part I needed. Cheers Phil
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thanks guys
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Is it normal to find wood in the rear frame of the cab deck?
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Wood
Only the rifle butt holders, and locating lugs for the side curtains on some Australian Ford cab 13s.
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I found rotten hard wood strips under there where the cab mounts to frame at the back. The bolts passed through the wood.
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Hi Ian attached is a picture of that piece of timber from my blitz.
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These were about 3 strips, about 1" thick each stacked and about from frame rail to frame rail wide. The 3 cab bolts passed through the wood to the frame. Maybe it had something to do with dampening the bounce because of the 250 gallons of water. I'm not sure.
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Timber across rear of cab
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Ford CMP, 115" WB,1942 (Under Restoration...still) Medium sized, half fake, artillery piece project. (The 1/4 Pounder) |
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Yes mine too but inside the frame of the floor just above the spring was where it was. The 2 bolts that go to the spring and the middle one in your photo pass through the wood.
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