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Ford - Chevrolet Gun Tractor
I recently bought another CMP gun tractor , cab 13 , as usual without the back body
Does anybody knows about the existence of blueprints to reconstruct the body , Any help greatly apreciated !
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Philip Penny |
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Hello Philip,
Interesting project, is it a Ford or Chevrolet and can you share photos of it? There is an FGT in Belgium restored from scratch by Stijn Van Haverbeke, maybe he made drawings. Hanno
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Thanks for your intrest in my project , I bought my first gun tractor (Ford ) about 15 years ago , not knowing what I'd achieved , with lots of work to be done. Intend to restore it anyway. Several weeks ago I bought a second truck , a Chevrolet gun tractor , cab 13 , engine , drivetrain and chassis are in fair state, photos will follow.
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Philip Penny |
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Here's the thread of Stijn's FGT: http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/showthread.php?t=7841
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Thanks Hanno , Stijn is a good friend of mine . I'll have to relie on his drawings and plans to reconstruct the body's.
By the way , I've got the old lady home now , photos will follow!
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dimensions
Hi Phillip,
I may help if you give me some time, will be making drawings and taking dimmensions from Frrantisek Nachlingers Quad for myself. PM sent. Dusan
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Fat / cgt
Thanks , there is no hurry required , happy to recieve all the help I can get .
If I can do something in return , please do not hesitate to ask me ! Best regards , Philip
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Philip Penny |
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Fgt cgt
the new arrival
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Philip Penny |
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Ford/Chev CMP FAT-4 with #13 Cab
Hi Phil,
God............I wish I could find one of these. I could give it a really good home. Very nice find - I'm envious. Cheers, Chris Preston, Victoria, BC |
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Nice project
It does not look like an old worn-out CGT which was cut down as a breakdown truck. What happened to the FAT body?
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Fgt cgt
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cheers
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Philip Penny |
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It's not realy that worn out , restoration of chassis and drive train has been done by the previous owner , who had to let go (due to his age and health) , FAT body must have been removed somewhere in the past to convert it to a breakdown truck , unfortunately no traces of these bodies over here , all scrapped I guess.
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Philip Penny |
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No blueprints that I know of, but I posted a drawing in this thread. Maybe there are more out there - who has access to the AEDB Design Records? HTH, Hanno
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Building a FAT body
Look what I had to work with, spent a day at the Newtonville wrecking yard measured up real FAT.
Thanks Walde Last edited by Walde Libera; 01-03-16 at 10:53. |
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BTW - great base for the FAT, congrats! Frankie |
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fat body
iirc there is one of these sitting out at McLean auto wrecker near Milton Ontario. It has been the subject of a lot of photographers who take pictures in the old yard. https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...YYfHDaWCipWVLg
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Jason Dixon Cambridge, Ontario 1942 Willys MB CDLV 505 |
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More of the FGT
I found a link to a large number of photographs of reasonable size including some of the FGT and other CMPs here, particularly from about the 50% mark.
http://www.flickriver.com/groups/mcl...l/interesting/ Quote:
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Here's one pic of it: https://www.flickr.com/photos/437091...sautowreckers/ Others can be found from roughly this page onward as Keith mentioned: https://www.flickr.com/groups/mclean...rs/pool/page11
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Question
The bigger question is: Is it still there or has someone rescued it?
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I got the last 12 cab FAT out of there but there was a 13 cab FAT there. It's just a cab and chassis but they belong to Stew Robertson if anyone is interested. There are a few other CMPs but you may need a chainsaw to get what's left of them out.
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CMPs
Thanks for the update Ian and good to hear the FGT was rescued. Having looked through all of the photos in that link from various photographers it was amazing to see how many were just the same as each other and how few had the creative powers to recognise and photograph the CMPs, the gems of that collection.
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Yes, thanks for the bum steer Keith! One thousand eight hundred and fourteen close ups of rust patterns!
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One of the original Australian CMP hunters. |
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Rust patterns
Haha, my pleasure Tony!
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Film maker 42 FGT No8 (Aust) remains 42 FGT No9 (Aust) 42 F15 Keith Webb Macleod, Victoria Australia Also Canadian Military Pattern Vehicles group on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/canadianmilitarypattern |
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In fairness there are some worthy images amongst the dross. Collection just needs a massive cull.
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One of the original Australian CMP hunters. |
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OK rusty old truck lovers, now let's get back to topic: Frankie wondered if the rear section of the FAT bodies are identical?
As far as I can tell - based on observation - is that the rear sections are indeed the same. Can anyone confirm? Quote:
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I have asked Stijn - yes, he has the drawings.
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A very interesting project. Is the rear the same as on a 12cab FGT? I am in the process of hopefully buying a very, very rusty one and if I get it any drawings would be a real help.
Jon
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Fgt
In my opinion , cab 12 is different from cab 13 , rear ends as well .
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I just was offered a rear bod for early cab, was thinking about putting it on my cab 13... but then I heard the price and decded to build it from nothing
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I also consider that rear body but, the cost and transport was too much.
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