Morris Commercial CD/SW L.A.D. Help!

[T17E1]

Hi Guys, Does anyone know where I might find a water pump or water pump rebuild kit for my CDSW?
Regds Tobin

[Stefano Ruggeri]

Originally Posted by T17E1

Hi Guys, Does anyone know where I might find a water pump or water pump rebuild kit for my CDSW?
Regds Tobin

Torbin,
Try E.P. Services (Tel. 01902 452914). All they do are water pumps, and they did a great job on mine.
Cheers,
Stef

Originally posted by Richard Farrant
. . . . . but I have a feeling it is the one now at the REME museum collection in Bordon, having been through a restoration.

If so, its regrettable the restoration didn't extend to the front diff which isn't there and seriously limits the mobility to nil on damp grass with a hint of a slope.

The design and operation of the axle linkage demands both axles be driven since the one with grip tends to lift itself and force the other one onto the ground, quite correct to balance the drive load as intended but desperate if one axle is undriven.

As the CDSW crown wheel in these worm diffs is a massive chunk of P-Bronze, we conclude many have been "weighed-in" for the cash on offer.

Be very careful with lube oil spec therefore as the bronze will not like modern GL4 or 5 spec EP gear oil; the original was a castor based product now unobtainable but after some research we have found a specific GL1 spec SAE140 gear oil designed for bronze assemblies.

R.

[Les Freathy]

Good evening Stefano
You sound a bit down with your restoration project, stick with it the end result will please you no end. To help with the stowage problem two photos the first war time , second a restored CDSW i hope they help with info you require.

Larry we must have been floating around that CDSW at Biggin Hill about the same time my photos of it are almost the same angles

les

[Les Freathy]

Photo 2

[lynx42]

Mike Kelly, Do you know of the TL37 in your area? There's one near Drouin owned by a bloke called Alan.Haven't seen it but have seen photo's.

[T17E1]

Hi Richard, Have you a commercial name for the axle lubricant. I have a spare axle and dif if you need one. Best regards. Tobin. tob@tj44.demon.co.uk

Originally Posted by T17E1

Hi Richard, Have you a commercial name for the axle lubricant. I have a spare axle and dif if you need one. Best regards. Tobin. tob@tj44.demon.co.uk

Probably the wrong Richard, however, if you refer to the diffs than its SAE140 gear oil to GL1 spec.

The use of EP or Hypoid gear oils will eat the bronze crown wheels of these worm drive diffs.

Its not uncommon to find these bolted-up bronze crown wheels missing, the REME museum example at Bordon here is just such, they obviously fetched a good price once upon a time with the scrap man; it is a big chunk of bronze.

Driving one axle of a CDSW is a bit of a disaster since the axle linkages have the effect of lifting the driving wheels and applying more down load to the non-driving set, not a problem when both axles are driven as it balances itself and aids cross-country mobility as designed, however with only one driven, a slight slope on wet grass can defeat it as I have witnessed.

R.

[Stefano Ruggeri]

Les,
Thanks alot for the photos, first time I've ever seen what goes in the back!

Many thanks again, I appreciate it

[T17E1]

Hi Stef,
I have all the stowage drawings for the CDSW and handbook and spare parts books. Do you need copies?
Tobin

[Les Freathy]

Hi Stef

Found a couple more views of the breakdown truck, trust the restoration is moving along Ok
cheers
Les

[Stefano Ruggeri]

Originally Posted by T17E1

I have all the stowage drawings for the CDSW and handbook and spare parts books. Do you need copies?

Tobin,

Just saw you post now I've got the handbook and spare parts catalogue (that would be more useful if it had illustrations it must be said...), but I would love the stowage drawings Les, I'll post a few pics of the engine soon.

thanks all,

Stef

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Three more pics of a 1940 30cwt Morris CDSW 6x4 Light Recovery Vehicle:
http://www.ianhardy.net/gallery/milv001/crw_4077l_std
http://www.ianhardy.net/gallery/milv001/crw_4032l_std
http://www.ianhardy.net/gallery/dli03/CRW_2230

[Stefano Ruggeri]

Originally posted by Hanno Spoelstra
Three more pics of a 1940 30cwt Morris CDSW 6x4 Light Recovery Vehicle:

Thanks Hanno, it would seem that there are more of these lorries around than I thought. The nice man at the REME museum told me that the majority of the survivors come from Ireland, I wonder why? Out here in Italy the six cylinder morris engine was not very highly regarded apparently, and those vehicles sold on to the civilian market were scrapped very soon after the war. The engine on mine died because the hot spot on the inlet manifold had corroded which led to a holed piston, and this happened whilst it was still in sevice with the Italian army. I wonder if this was a common failing....

Thanks again,
Stef

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally posted by Stefano Ruggeri
The nice man at the REME museum told me that the majority of the survivors come from Ireland, I wonder why?

Well, basically because the Irish Defence Forces use their equipment for a long time. They had four Leyland Retrievers in service from 1939 to 1979! The National Transport Museum of Ireland also has an "Army Morris CDSW 3-axle Gun Tractor 1939" on stock.
Also because the Irish took good such good care of them during some 50 years, we now have two Landsverk L180 armoured cars preserved in Holland.

H.

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

I like Morris's as much as the next guy, but way back you promised Fox pictures!!

I'd very much like to see these if possible...

Bruce

[Stefano Ruggeri]

Originally posted by Bruce Parker
I like Morris's as much as the next guy, but way back you promised Fox pictures!!

I'd very much like to see these if possible...

Bruce

Ooops... Will do

[Alex van de Wetering]

Hi Stefano,

There is another fully restored Morris CD/SW Light Breakdown in the Military vehicle museum in Newcastle upon tyne in Great Britain. I am not sure if it is one of the tractors pictured in this tread allready.


I do have some pictures of this one, but I have to look on my old computer.

Good luck with your Morris's!

Alex, The Netherlands

Originally Posted by Alex van de Wetering

Hi Stefano,

There is another fully restored Morris CD/SW Light Breakdown in the Military vehicle museum in Newcastle upon tyne in Great Britain.

I think I know that one, it is "stored" in the museum but privately owned.

I have seen this up close and followed it to the private "home" with young Rory Ballard as its passenger, its largely original but we'd both agree "restored" is perhaps a bit to strong. The engine needs some serious work too. . . .

R.

[Stefano Ruggeri]

Originally posted by Stefano Ruggeri
Ooops... Will do

After an age, here are a couple of photos of the Fox, taken in April when we were at Florence

[Stefano Ruggeri]

another..

[Stefano Ruggeri]

and yet another!

all the best