I.D. Plates

[Ian Pullen]

Tony, the photos you posted of the LP1, is it yours or photos you have taken of another one????? If it is yours I would be interested in talking to you. Lynn, as for the photos of the LP1 we have started, check Keith Webb's CMP site, he has posted a number of photos of our workshop projects from the Bandiana Museum. I am chasing a speedo and a rear diff for an LP1as it is about the only thing missing we can't fabricate.

[Lynn Eades]

So is there anything special about the rear axle? I would think its dead standard 1940 Ford, splined pinion, 5.83 :1 ratio? Thats the case with the N.Z. LP1 the problem starts at the backing plate, Which along with the brake drum is special to the LP1 carrier.
Is that the same with the Aust. LP1?

[Keith Webb]

Originally posted by Ian Pullen
Lynn, as for the photos of the LP1 we have started, check Keith Webb's CMP site, he has posted a number of photos of our workshop projects from the Bandiana Museum.

Here are the carriers Ian was talking about:



and



And there are more pics here.

[phoenix]

a 2a plate that I have. anybody know what became of the vehicle it was attached to?

[phoenix]

Keith, looking at your carrier register http://www.oldcmp.net/Register.html it looks like 1584 is actually listed in there (although noted as poor condition)

I thought somebody else had a list of carriers as well but I couldn't find it.

I actually know somebody down at queenstown tasmania that has a carrier, I must ask him about his hull number. needs a bit of work form memory.

[Lynn Eades]

Here are a couple of plates off gun limbers, with the "not clearly defined" "L", which I would like to see a definative explanation of.

[Lynn Eades]

Having opened up my shipping container, I found the (repro) plate, that I had cast up, using an original as a pattern. (the owner didnt want to part with it)

[Tony Smith]

Originally Posted by Lynn Eades

Here are a couple of plates ..... with the "not clearly defined" "L", which I would like to see a definative explanation of.

I have asked that question on another Forum, and the response I received was that it was a British nomenclature practice for items that were for "Land" Service, as opposed to /N/ for Naval service. In the '20s, /A/ appeared for items for Air service. The practice continued through the '40s, and while the requirement continued for specific Land, Naval and Air service items continued, the marking by /L/ was discontinued.

While I could understand identifying types of ammunition or ordnance for specific environmental or operational conditions applying to Land, Naval or Air service, I could not see the need for identifying Carriers as specifically for "Land" service due to the bleeding obvious fact they dont float or fly!

As an example, I have these Very Signal cartridges. Of interest here are the 2 Red star MkXI T. Both are 42 produced, but the black one shows /L/ for Land service, while the buff one has no such indication. As can be seen in the ordnance ID diagram (which unfortunately does not cover the MkXI T to tell us if it was Land service only), there were different types specified for Land and Naval service for some types, although others could be used equally.

[martyn]

Originally Posted by Lynn Eades

So is there anything special about the rear axle? I would think its dead standard 1940 Ford, splined pinion, 5.83 :1 ratio? Thats the case with the N.Z. LP1 the problem starts at the backing plate, Which along with the brake drum is special to the LP1 carrier.
Is that the same with the Aust. LP1?

Hi Lynn
the rear axle is the same casting as a ford truck but the 6 holes that the back plates bolt on to are in the wrong position,what you need to do is cut the welds and rotate the end of the axle, if you put a hole at say 12 oclock and the nxt hole is at 2,4,6,8,10 on a truck the holes on a carrier ar at 1,3,5,7,9,11 i found this out when i went to fit the rear axle after using a truck one as it was in better condition then the original carrier one