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30-08-03, 19:31
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Photos arrived thanks Lars
Lars, what a collection! I have some copy prints sent to me from Mr Webb and they have nunbers on them. I can establish whether these are in addition to the ones you lent me. I have laser copies of some GMEXC1 photos of a C15A that were sent to me by a museum in Canada, but I cannot establish now whom sent them. It wasn't Base Borden Military Museum it seems, so whom was it..RCA Museum? Anyone got anyidea please?
Also Keith....did you ever get around to collecting any more of the GM of Canada prints? You sent them 6 December 2001. You were going to send more after Christmas but I guess that you have been very understandably busy. You mentioned Brian Gough as the salvor from the dumpster. That's two Canadian salvors we have to thank for saving official GM of C pix! 
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30-08-03, 21:15
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Re: CMP PROTOTYPE PHOTOS?
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For a page with links to most (if not all) the CMP pages see http://www.geocities.com/cmpvehicles/links.html
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30-08-03, 23:50
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Thanks! Also possible answers
Thank you Hanno.
That mystery 3-ton Compressor Truck could be: L 5541198 to L 5541272 Contract SM 6052 LORRY 3 TON 4 X 4 COMPRESSOR which would have had a Generator and Compressed Air Tank Body. On another note it seems Lars that I have some photos from Keith that are duplicates of some of the ones you sent, though there are some that Keith sent that are not in the two piles. Also I have scanned several shots of a C15A chassis/cab with GMEXC prefixes, so that means we can associate that series with the numbered shots. I am certian that official photos that I scanned in from GM of Canada's war album contain photos from the official listing so they can be added to the ones I now have to scan. Further, some of them were published from around 1942-45 in CANADIAN WAR WORKER magazine which was GM of Canada's wartime propaganda staff mag. Only a few copies are known to survive in the GM of C Plant in Windsor, Ontario. I guess that they used the official photos for all sorts of purposes year on year. May we appeal please to anyone who has official GM of Canada photos, or knows any museums and suchlike who might have copies to contact as we might be able to eventually reconstruct a good percentage of the totoal listing of over 1100 photos.
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31-08-03, 21:38
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David,
Nice that You have received the pix. And have a happy birthday 
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26-09-03, 17:28
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David, if you would please give me your e-mail address, I could send you some pictures of CMP vehicles in post-war service. I have an extencive pictorial archive of such vehicles.
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26-09-03, 17:39
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Rather than have members publish email addresses publicly, we have a system here whereby you can click on the Profile button on any of David's posts and email him though the system. It saves us from the spammers' spiders searching these kind of sites to add addresses for their insidious lists. Geoff The Management
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26-09-03, 22:26
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I have spam canned!
Geoff, and anyone else, I have no problem with luncheon meat...British Telecom stuffs about 50 spam messages per day into the bin so I don't get them. My e mail address is
gmhistorian@btopenworld.com My snail mail is DAVID HAYWARD FAIRVIEW THE DROVE LOWER COMMON ROAD WEST WELLOW ROMSEY HAMPSHIRE SO51 6BT UNITED KINGDOM please...thanks guys! However for anyone else, please, and I repeat please, do as Mr W-B has suggested and use the forum's facilities.
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27-09-03, 01:52
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Spam Canned
David
Can you please get British Telecom to export their spam jam to OZ. 52 of them in 24hrs today. I would like some software whereby you could send it back and create a loop in their bloody computers. Bob 
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27-09-03, 09:55
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Spam junker
G'day Bob amd Nick says thanks to you for the intro to your pal re the miniatures. I think most telecom providers now do a spam filter...127 in 12 hours I got that BT canned.
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28-09-03, 16:09
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Sales, distribution, and one more suggestion
David,
Please give us details of the publisher and his sales network. Frequently specialist books are difficult to obtain in non-specialist shops. Your series sounds like something I will want for modelling reference so I will want to keep up with releases as they occur. Suggestion? (As if you need another and you may have already addressed this) I hope you will consider including plans in popular modeling scales such as 1/35 or 1/72. If not in each volume, perhaps a volume of plans alone. I hope that your efforts will stimulate model manufacturers to examine the possibilities of creating a series of 1/35 kits of softskin vehicles of Commonwealth and US origins. Although the rivet counters looked down on the old Peerles-Max kits, some of us thought they made into nice little models. Thanks for reading. Bob Potter
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28-09-03, 18:45
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The publishers will probably be TRANS PENNINE PUBLISHING of England, and we all know enough people out there to distribute BUT I would prefer to sell copies direct.
As to drawings, well I have already thought of having CMP models produced in metal. The big problem is getting original drawings because once they have been obtained then I know they can be scaled down. Do such original drawings exist I wonder?
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29-09-03, 01:04
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As far as the old Peerless Kits go Bob, they are the same ones used by all the other "reboxers" of the 15 cwt and FAT kits--so far, the same old molds have been used by P-M, Italeri, Bilek, Testors, Tomy, and I'm sure a few others.
Still good kits after all this time. Buy them when you can. Lots of others do. I have many. The Tamiya Kit gives you a nice Ford gun tractor, 12 cab, and a great 239 V8. There's a revised and corrected Eduard photo etch set for the 25 pounder as well, and recently Eduard did one for the gun tractor as well. David, a friendly word of advice: there are, as Bob mentioned, still good 1/35 kits out there, and now Maple Leaf Models has issued new roofs, spare tires, and frame/driveline and exhaust extensions for the Italeri 101 inch WB kits. If you want them to sell on the western side of the pond, forget metal, unless it's an odd scale. Not worth the investment. Metal only sells in the UK. And we North Americans can't figure out why  : Cheers Don
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29-09-03, 08:09
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Don,
From previous conversations with David I suspect that he may be talking about the 'Dinky' scale diecast collectors market rather than 1/35 scale modellers products, which have a huge market on both sides of the big pond. Regarding the old Peerless-Max kits - even Italeri have now dropped the CMP quad and 15cwt kits here - shame as I've converted a few and still got a couple of ideas that I can't fulfill.
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29-09-03, 08:33
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The big problemo with plastic kits is the myriad of bits needed to make them up, which have to be manufactured @ huge cost. We seem to have a friendly ear with Corgi who do the 3000-off limited edition trucks, jeeps, etc. and they sell really well.... that said I listen to everyone and if plastic/resin is what also sells then I reckon we have to cost....regrettably probably from eastern Europe or Far East. Unless we go for metal.
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29-09-03, 09:46
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Re: Sales, distribution, and one more suggestion
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David, there are quite a few people out there who make plans. See http://www.activevr.com/afv/1-35.html, http://www3.sympatico.ca/chr.johnson/index.htm, http://www.mafva.com/resources.asp for example. They might be interested to publish their plans in your books? Regards, Hanno
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29-09-03, 14:52
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...for the advice Hanno. I appreciate it.
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29-09-03, 15:01
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CMP Books series update
I have been speaking to the publishers and it appears that the series is very likely to happen. I wrote the first book on the origins of the CMPs so to speak but it is thought that you guys, the buyers, will want to see a PICTORIAL BOOK first. The idea is that we have 160 pages full of photos of CMPs plus other Canadian- and British-order trucks, jeeps and forklifts, etc., assembled in the UK. This would whet your appetite for the next book to come a few months later, being the history from 1935 to 1941 in detail.
The books will eb around 160 pages as I said, A4 but landscaped. I would also add drawings whenever possible, but we hope that these photos of brand-new trucks etc. will be perfect for modelling from. I reckon the selling price will be GB Pounds 25.00, or US$40, C$60 or so UK price. That would be the approximate post-free rate for postal despatch. The costings by the way stack up so that we can go forward... what I need now is a note of people's snail mail addresses so that we can send a leaflet shortly with details of prices, ordering, etc. DAVID HAYWARD FAIRVIEW THE DROVE LOWER COMMON ROAD WEST WELLOW ROMSEY HAMPSHIRE SO51 6BT UNITED KINGDOM gmhistorian@btopenworld.com
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30-09-03, 12:31
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Keep 'em rolling in please
May I ask for everyone else out there who reads this forum to let me know about books? I am grateful for all you who have e mailed me so far. It looks as though there will be at least six, and then we can go on to MCC, Austin, et al military vehicles.
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30-09-03, 22:03
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If you didn't know (!) the only known restored F15 Polsten stands alongside arguably the best MC PU complete with radio fit not very far from you, like SO32. . . . . . . . R.
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01-10-03, 08:22
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I was a lot nearer when I was at Locks Heath, SO31! Yes I had forgotten about SO32's marvels!!
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01-10-03, 09:43
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01-10-03, 11:32
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At West Wellow we're on the edge of the Forest! I think there will have to be some decent photo-taking in due course. HERITAGE COMMERCIALS magazine might well be interested in the rich pickings that could form articles for their mag.
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01-10-03, 20:51
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Richard
The Oxford CMP crew can field the following: F8 no vents 11 cab FFW F15A mid range 11 cab 2B1 pick up body C15A early 12 cab 2B1 van body C30 no vents 11 cab derrick body C30 early 13 cab LAA The crew are a like minded group of collectors who all own their own trucks but tend to travel and show together. David it has long been in our mind to make a pilgrimage with the trucks to Southampton and see if we could take some pictures near or on the area that was assembly plant 1. What do you think? Richard, got your e-mail, it was good to put a face to the name, strange we had to do it 380 miles from home!! Pete
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01-10-03, 21:03
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01-10-03, 21:29
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Ve Can Arrange!
The F15A could most definitely represent the Ford F15s assembled in the Canadian Mechanization depot from April 1940, though strictly speaking there were no F15As I think assembled there. The F8s, namely the British Ford Model EC011DF, were assembled definitely either at Dagenham or ....Citroen Cars Limited, Slough [the second Canadian Mechanization Depot]! I have no evidnce that any F8s were assembled in Southampton but it is posible as F30 and F60L trucks were assembled in the the original CMD.
The good news is that I know of the manager at the Southampton building which is now a WIX Filtration filter plant. There are parts of the original Slough Trading Estate left, near where Citroens were until 1966 assembling cars. Their HQ is still in Slough of course. That said I think the C30S as they were initially called were definitely assembled in Southampton. The answer would appear to me to organise a run to CMD, Southampton with the local ECHO newspaper being invited to take shots. I'll be there with my official photos collection, and then the road run goes on to Slough? Could Dagenham be taken in as well? Perhaps RIPPLE LANE, Barking, industrial estate as well, where Ford assembled CMPs? If that sound s too much then I suggest SOUTHAMPTON, then SLOUGH.
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02-10-03, 07:38
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The Oxford CMP crew are a privilege to have at any show, this display of excellent vehicles is quite stunning and its a pity the public generally have no conception of the dedicated effort that goes into it. Along the Southampton thought, Ballard is looking at a visit to Dennis at Guildford as they made the body for the Polsten fit and still have an amount of archive data/records. Plug - It would be nice to gather a selection of CMPs at Overlord next year, of course Ballard(s) & Al Tooes will be there as they are my main show crew, perhaps I can persuade Bob Coult to bring his HUW too from Eastleigh. Of course you can always ply the esteemed Tinningbon-Wall with alcoholic beverages for a real re-enactment of MLD, which is often quite entertaining. Depending on the show pressures and availability of Mr. Alvis' hydraulic arm, (I have just found out bearings that start X----- are specials with price/availability to suit), it would be an occasion to lift the Ballard Polsten off to show the ground mounting and trail arrangements. We have observed the original manual where 4 soldier lads do it handraulically and fight shy of these gut-ripping machinations. You will never see it winched on up the special tubular ramps though, Ballard has the vapours about scratching the No.2 brown (DTB) paint and the scarcity of self-formulated stuff he carries with him for emergencies. It is true, Pete an I met by chance at The Durham Light Infantry Museum, some 400+ miles away for us, an added pleasure to a throughly excellent weekend. R.
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Thanks for the pix
Thanks go to Mr John Schade for the collection he sent me. I have really updated my database on Chevrolet CMPs now!!
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20-10-03, 20:42
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You're welcome, David!
How about this: I've noticed that there is a great interest in scale modelling out there - why not dedicate a whole volume, or at least a booklet, to this subject? What I'm talking about is a pictorial book dealing with CMP scale models in any shape or form - whether built "from scratch", "from the box" or converted in some way or another. If all of you scale modellers - and I'm sure there are many of you - took some nice pictures of your CMP-favorites and then scanned or copied them to David, he would be able to decide whether to include them in his book project. A book like this would also be a more appropriate place for printing plans and drawings - as suggested by some - rather than the already announced volumes. This could also be a great inspiration to other modellers, and a documentation of what can be done in this field! I'd like reactions to this suggestion, please! : John Schade CMP - Enthusiast and scale modeller
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Nice thought!
John, very good idea but I would probably ask Mr Dave Cox to write the book and I would edit it so to speak. I know nothing of modelling and Mr Cox has just drafted a book on how to model the sort of vehicles we are talking of.
I also have to thank Mr Ask for the CD Rom he sent through with some excellent photos. I am touched at our friends' hospitality.
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CMP Book series
As mentioned in the SOFTSKIN FORUM, I am pleased to say that Editor Professor Alan Earnshaw, Trans-Pennine Publishing Limited, is proceeding apace with the CMP book SERIES. As you know I have written the first one, and we know what further volumes will be containing including hundreds of never-before seen photos of CMP, MCP and other vehicles being assembled in the UK.
Now, we are going to issue a brochure with an application form but it would be really useful if those of you who have not yet expressed their interest to contact Alan. We can then send you the form if necessary. I have say 25 orders but we need more! Click here to e-mail Alan Earnshaw. [edited by moderator to hide the e-mail address - this minimises the chance of mis-use by spam robots]
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