Dodge D-15 and D-60 info - Page 3

Hanno Spoelstra · #1 10-11-04, 14:37

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Originally posted by Erwin
The roof hatch, would that be the same size than my D15 hatch below? If so, do you have a copy/drawing of the exact making?And would you share it;-)))please?

Erwin, if you wish I could provide measurements of the factory-fitted hatch, except I think your D15 was once fitted with this "field mod" type of hatch:

By the way, great looking truck with lots of potential.

Regards,
Hanno

Erwin · #2 10-11-04, 15:21

"field mod" means apart from the size which is given by the welding lines there is no exact shaping rules...
Erwin

Hanno Spoelstra · #3 10-11-04, 15:46

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Originally posted by Erwin
"field mod" means apart from the size which is given by the welding lines there is no exact shaping rules...

"Field mod" normally is a one-off; sorry, I could not find a better term. They were not fitted in the factory like the early square and late round hatches. I suspect these canvas hatches were made as retrofit kits to be fitted by workshops in-theatre. The welding lines are a good start for establishing the size and shape, you will have to find more pictures and work from there as I have never seen any of these hatches on preserved trucks.

Hanno

Erwin · #4 10-11-04, 15:52

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Originally posted by Hanno Spoelstra
you will have to find more pictures..

This truck is a single discovery tour to me - I love it!!
By the way: do have an idea where to get such parts as cylinder head gaskets from? Just in case one day needed?
Erwin

Hanno Spoelstra · #5 10-11-04, 16:36

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Originally posted by Erwin
This truck is a single discovery tour to me - I love it!!

I love enigmas like this too so let's see if we can find out more - see canvas-covered square roof hatch.

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By the way: do have an idea where to get such parts as cylinder head gaskets from?

Sorry, no idea on where to get spares for your Dodge - try asking Matt?

H.

Al Nickolson · #6 10-11-04, 19:00

Re:Alberta Truck,

The roof hatch has been
welded up.

Davistine Liddle · #7 05-01-20, 20:01

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Originally Posted by Al Nickolson

Re:Alberta Truck,

The roof hatch has been
welded up.

1. Yes, I also found one, this truck has been auctioned by the Indian Government, there are two photos
is it D60 or D15 also having welded round patch ..

2 The second one which with silver paint painted on the logo is another from a government auction

3.The third one is a video of a D15 " https://youtu.be/2Dzuu02SLFA "

Alex van de Wetering · #8 05-01-20, 22:56

Davistine,

Great to see these old Dodges survive in India! Could it be that the truck in pictures 1,2 and 3 are one and the same? It looks like the markings on the bumper and damage to the grill match up(?).
Judging from the rear body and frame in the front of the body I presume this truck is a D60L.

Alex

Davistine Liddle · #9 06-01-20, 07:45

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Originally Posted by Alex van de Wetering

Davistine,

Great to see these old Dodges survive in India! Could it be that the truck in pictures 1,2 and 3 are one and the same? It looks like the markings on the bumper and damage to the grill match up(?).
Judging from the rear body and frame in the front of the body I presume this truck is a D60L.

Alex

Thank you for correcting me yes it's a same truck I have not checked the marking on the bumper these world war vehicles were given (donated) to the government technical institutes for study purpose and for there uses but as of now they were not in use they were auctioned as a scrap ,there is a link of a video I have taken still from it,is it a D15
mentioning

Alex van de Wetering · #10 06-01-20, 13:04

Davistine,

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is it a D15

I don't see any remains of the front marker lights in the face of the front fenders. Also, it has the fancy Dodge rear fenders which were not used on D15's. My guess is that it's a 1940 Dodge civilian pickup.
I can't see from the video.....is it Right hand drive?

Alex

Tony Smith · #11 10-11-04, 23:10

The Kingaroy Dodges had a square roof hatch that seemed to share a lot of features with Aust Ford CMP hatches. I don't have a better pic than this, Cliff, do you have a detail shot of the hatch?

cliff · #12 10-11-04, 23:51

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Originally posted by Tony Smith
The Kingaroy Dodges had a square roof hatch that seemed to share a lot of features with Aust Ford CMP hatches. I don't have a better pic than this, Cliff, do you have a detail shot of the hatch?

yes I do including all measurements and both interior and exterior pics. Interior are not good pics but adequate.

I would have to resize all the pics to place here so if anyone one wants them go to my Roo's truck archives on the Armorama modeling site
http://www.armorama.com/modules/phot...3521&password=

PS> Maybe Keith would like to put a page up on Old CMP net if I send him a disk?

Erwin · #13 18-11-04, 14:33

Just discovered what could be a D60 (?) with civil type cargo body in "Flying the Hump", Motorbooks. Or it is a civil Dodge, with civil flatbed. The latter is more likely, I think.Picture was taken in WWII in Burma.
Erwin

Keith Webb · #14 18-11-04, 18:55

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Originally posted by cliff

PS> Maybe Keith would like to put a page up on Old CMP net if I send him a disk?

Hi Cliff
Just seen your post - happy to... send me the disk!

Incidentally, I think the Dodge hatches were the same as the ones we see on Ford Cab 12s here. Ford bought the hatches from an outside manufacturer, or OEM.

Hanno Spoelstra · #15 18-11-04, 20:39

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Originally posted by Al Nickolson
Re:Alberta Truck, The roof hatch has been welded up.

This looks like the regular late production round roof hatch.

Quote:

Originally posted by Keith Webb
Incidentally, I think the Dodge hatches were the same as the ones we see on Ford Cab 12s here. Ford bought the hatches from an outside manufacturer, or OEM.

Indeed those Australian hatches were yet another kind of hatch type - doesn't anybody have more information on the canvas-covered square roof hatch once fitted to Erwin's Dodge?

Thanks,
Hanno

Hanno Spoelstra · #16 08-01-05, 01:12

http://www.ku.edu/carrie/specoll/AFS.../AFSL21-06.jpg
Caption: RAP Italian style. AFS driver Charles Colline poses near his ambulance and an RAP truck on the Fifth Army front 'somewhere in Italy'. He is serving with a field artillery regiment. Photo by Brook Cuddy

Source: http://www.ku.edu/carrie/specoll/AFS...etters/21.html

Erwin · #17 09-01-05, 17:28

Great pic!!!
Another one with a D15!!!!Thanks Hanno.
What does RAP mean?
Greetings, Erwin

Phil Waterman · #18 09-01-05, 22:40

This is a Dodge that showed up at a truck meet last year.

gordon · #19 09-01-05, 22:48

The chassis number says it's one of the earlier batch of T203 1940 military VF production, obviously not a VF 402 as no winch front.

The cab and chassis is actually surprisingly common, but very few turn up with the original cargo or dump beds.

With your permission I'll copy the image and add it to my survivors list ?;

http://www.gwim2.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/vc200401.htm

Not a British contract truck though, as far as I know.

About 1500 did come to the UK, chassis all above 8833896 according to David Hayward. I'm sure there were similar 4 x 2 trucks procured too.

David_Hayward (RIP) · #20 09-01-05, 23:17

My listing confirms: US Government contract Dodge Model VF-401 to 407 depending on wheelbase, 1 1/2 ton capacity, Dodge Model T-203-B-143, 1940 Model.

The USG numbers were W-313605 to -317173, etc. [I have them quoted] depending on whether Closed Cab and Cargo, Closed Cab with Winch, Closed Cab and Dump Body, or Ambulance. USG Contract # W-398-QM-74171 or-7813.

I am interested to know who manufactured front axle and transfer case?

Phil Waterman · #21 09-01-05, 23:20

I can send you higher resolution pictures, truck was at the American Historical Truck Society Meet in Rochester, New Hampshire, USA August 2003.

gjamo · #22 09-01-05, 23:24

http://geocities.com/MotorCity/Facto...8/BFenner.html

gordon · #23 09-01-05, 23:39

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Originally posted by David_Hayward
My listing confirms: US Government contract Dodge Model VF-401 to 407 depending on wheelbase, 1 1/2 ton capacity, Dodge Model T-203-B-143, 1940 Model.

I am interested to know who manufactured front axle and transfer case?

I've had a look through the VF manual I have here, and the Master Parts List. The front axle (598825) and the transfer case (594066) are both in the listing with no 'vendor' code against them, suggesting it was Chrysler in-house. Same goes for the major sub-assemblies. Front axle joint type was RZEPPA.

In contrast numerous parts are identified as TIM (Timken) or NP (New Process)

Hanno Spoelstra · #24 09-01-05, 23:56

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Originally posted by Erwin
Great pic!!!
Another one with a D15!!!!Thanks Hanno.
What does RAP mean?

My pleasure, whenever I come across a D15 pic I post it here.

RAP means Regimental Aid Post.

Regards,
Hanno

Hanno Spoelstra · #25 10-01-05, 00:19

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Originally posted by Phil Waterman
Will have to reread the instructions for posting more than a single picture in a message.

Never mind because you can't; unless you copy and paste multiple images into a single one.

H.

gordon · #26 10-01-05, 00:21

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Originally posted by Phil Waterman
I can send you higher resolution pictures, truck was at the American Historical Truck Society Meet in Rochester, New Hampshire, USA August 2003.

Thanks, an e-mail with the images would be good.

G

Hanno Spoelstra · #27 12-01-05, 23:27

D15 in climbing Halfaya Pass in North Africa:
http://www.nzetc.org/etexts/WH2Alam/WH2Ala46a.jpg
Source: http://www.nzetc.org/etexts/WH2Alam/c26-2.html#n332

The Official History of New Zealand in the Second World War Online! hosted by the The New Zealand Electronic Text Centre is a rich source for unknown photos.

Hanno Spoelstra · #28 31-10-05, 10:58

Survivor at Beltring 2005:

source

Tony Smith · #29 02-11-05, 12:59

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Originally posted by David_Hayward
SM 2458 3-TON LORRY 4 X 2 160” W.B. with Split Cab Roof, Eaton 2-speed rear axle and dual rear wheels
“Shipped Direct Overseas” i.e. for Mid-East and then Australian forces1942 T-110-L-4 Serials # 91018501-91021500

SM 2458 3-TON LORRY 4 X 2 with Split Cab Roof, 2-speed axle and 10.50 x 16 wheels [single at rear] “Shipped Direct Overseas” i.e. for Mid-East and then Australian forces E.g. Serial # 91024993
# 91025019 Engine # T110-L-5 4494 4/9/41 and # 91024253
D-60420-C- 1942 D60-L T-110-L-5 Serials # 91021501-91025100

A parts book for Dodge T-110L-5 "Built for British War Department to S/M 2458" is currently for sale on e-bay. Item no 6574682001

Frederic · #30 02-11-05, 19:00

Hello !

Here two scan from english magazine :

I can send you these scans with high resolution

Regards Frédéric from Corsica !