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Old 15-03-13, 20:44
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Default White Scout Car - British Army Wireless

The photo below is of a White Scout Car in British Army Service - attributed to "Phantom".

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Am keen to find more photos of the canvas / roof arrangement on this vehicle.

I have to get a canvas made for mine at some stage later this year and would like to consider this arrangement - but am not clear if this is the standard canvas, or a British made version.

If anyone can help, I'd be grateful - similar photos would be great too.

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Old 16-03-13, 03:21
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I see a wirecutter to protect the crew. I see an angle steel rack on the rear. And, as you asked there is that convertible canvas. FWIW, I never knew the British used White Scout Cars.
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Old 16-03-13, 10:20
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White Scout Cars were used extensively by the British Army by "Phantom" and "ASSU" Units

Phantom - GHQ Liaison Regt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GHQ_Liaison_Regiment

ASSU - Air Support Signals Unit

http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/signals...als-group.html

Am not sure it's a wirecutter on the front... given the aerial mast at the rear, I think the metal section on the front may be to support an wire aerial running across the top of the vehicle to allow them to transmit on the move... but more similar photos are needed to tell for sure.

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Old 16-03-13, 16:06
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FWIW, I never knew the British used White Scout Cars.
The british did use them as well as the Canadians. Here are some photos that I have.
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Old 16-03-13, 17:16
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Another pic... getting better... but still a way to go.

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Edit - Photo extract from here - http://www.specialforcesroh.com/gall...=6&gal=gallery

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They were also used in the Recce Rgts, and as HQ comms vehicles in armoured units.
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Old 17-03-13, 04:16
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Thanks for the links. That is a part of the war effort of which I knew little until today. Those are big establishments, for REMFs.

I've been reading a book about a Canadian infantry brigade. One of the complaints from the badged regiments was the continual drain on strength. Good officers were contunually peeled off for staff jobs, courses and commands. Good NCOs stayed through the changes until something better was announced in Routine Orders. It is almost a wonder the battalions continued to function.
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They were also used in the Recce Rgts, and as HQ comms vehicles in armoured units.
British 1st Airborne Recce Squadron equipped with the White after Arnhem.

http://www.paradata.org.uk/content/m3-white-scout-car

Some great photos and drawings.

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I see that the British appear to have discarded the front mounted roller which to my mind would have to be a smart move. IMO the roller would have to be one of the most useless appendages ever fitted to a military vehicle. Unlike the half-track not one had a winch, a far more useful item. Go figure?

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Old 21-03-13, 09:40
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The British removed them after a recommendation from vehicle trials where the roller was found to dig into banks rather than aid the vehicle going over them. This probably explains why so many surviving vehicles in Europe are missing the roller.

Mine has no roller - this having been cut off at some stage in the past, and whilst I have a replacement roller and all the parts, I have no plans to refit it - it will be one of those spare parts which will be available to sell with the vehicle if one day I ever sell it. Then someone else can have the pleasure in pulling the front of the chassis apart to refit the supporting brackets.

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