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Old 30-06-14, 07:32
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Default Chevrolet C60L with 10.50-16 tires

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One among my friends sent to me a pic of a C60L with cab number13 which (following what he told) was intended to be built for australian army. Of course the system which held the spare wheel is particular for these australian CMP.

I will be wonder to know the true designation of these kind of truck and if the mount of 10.50X16 was a factory mount.

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Old 30-06-14, 08:18
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I always thought the Aussie CMP's always had the rectangular roof hatch and not the round one as shown.
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Old 30-06-14, 09:08
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And it has the Canadian, not Australian front shell with the rhomboidal vents.
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Old 30-06-14, 09:38
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Hello

I thank you for your answer , but if it's a canadian truck , has this truck a specific designation after the pattern C60L ?
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Old 30-06-14, 09:53
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most of the 16inch wheel models in this longer wheelbase had a rating of 30cwt and not 3 ton. BUT most of these to my knowledge had 134inch wheelbases not 158 inch. so it is a puzzle
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Old 30-06-14, 09:59
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I found this factory photo of a 13 cab LWB 'office' on 16inch rims. This photo came from Service publications Factory Photo CD. Note the factory fitted spare wheel mount!
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Old 30-06-14, 11:29
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In my idea , I think that some 158 wheel base truck had 1050X16 tires because may be there was a lack of tire 1050X20. So for the truck with dental body or any truck which had only to be drive on good road it was most easy to put such little wheels. For other they had 1050X20 tires.

Worl of CMP is so complex !!!!!
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Old 30-06-14, 22:56
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Serge,

That very same truck was offered for sale on MLU - see Restored C-60L Cab13 For Sale.

The contract number PE-197 has come up in discussions before, somehow these were ordered by the Australians but never delivered. It seems they were indeed factory fitted with 16" wheels. These were normally used for Ambulance, Dentist trucks etc.

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Old 30-06-14, 23:03
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Serge,

That very same truck was offered for sale on MLU - see Restored C-60L Cab13 For Sale.

The contract number PE-197 has come up in discussions before, somehow these were ordered by the Australians but never delivered. It seems they were indeed factory fitted with 16" wheels. These were normally used for Ambulance, Dentist trucks etc.

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Serge and Hanno,
Possibly so that there did not have to be wheel boxes in the body ( more room ) and to keep the body low due to height.

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Old 01-07-14, 01:59
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The roof hatch suggests this vehicle was built late 44 or 45. There were a lot of British Contract vehicles built here in Canada in 45 for certain, that the British never took delivery of and the Canadian Gov't took delivery of them. Many have showed up surplus and never issued, even to the Canadian military.

Could these vehicles have made it so far into the delivery system, before Australia also decided it was too late in the war to worry about delivery and they were diverted to other customers? Be interesting to know the production date for this truck, or more details about the Australian order: when placed and completion status.

Nice unusual CMP never the less.

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Old 01-07-14, 08:31
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Default FORD CANADA F60L with 1050X16 tires

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Following the discussion, I remenbered to have seen a similar truck with "little wheels". After searching in my collection of thousands pics I find these two pics. The truck was in BELTRING in 1996 and registered in BELGIUM.
It is a FORD CANADA F60L with circular roof hatch, push barr before the front bumper; and cabestan at the end of the differential so belonging to the last series of 1945 Unhappily I have no pic of the spare wheel housing.
Having spook with the owner, he told me that the purpose of the little wheels was to store the truck in a shed !!!!
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Old 01-07-14, 08:33
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It was in my exitation that I wrote a circular roof hatch . But it has no hatch

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Old 02-07-14, 20:34
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It did in the first photo?
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Old 04-07-14, 14:38
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After searching in my collection of thousands pics I find these two pics.
Serge,

Those wheels look even smaller; I'm guessing 9.00x16 tyres.

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Old 05-07-14, 03:12
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I always thought the Aussie CMP's always had the rectangular roof hatch and not the round one as shown.
My 1945 C60L with ARN 77821 has a round roof hatch. It left the army in 1956 after a rebuild, and has had only one careful owner since then ,so everything is still original.
I have only ever seen one other round hatch C60L and that was in Dalby Queensland about 30 years ago.
My truck and the one I saw both have/had 20 inch wheels.
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