Chorehorse question.

[Robin Craig]

Somebody thinks this one is worth it's weight in gold it would seem, does look quite, how would you say, pretty?

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-view-details....teLocale=en_CA

[chris vickery]

US PE-14 model. Not exactly a chorehorse. And yes, he thinks its gold.

[Ron Pier]

Originally Posted by BCA

Ron: Maybe the knob is a replacement. In addition there is a long rectangular data plate riveted on the top of the generator to the rear of the control box. What does this plate say? Never seen such a plate.

Hi Brian. The brass plate has serial number G12775 and a logo with LSE. Maybe they did a refurb to the motor at some time? Ron

[Jordan Baker]

With the help of Charlie Fitton, we got the Chorehorse running. Next up for me is figuring out the wiring to get the generator charging.

Anyway enjoy the videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6fYii3fsvE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_ANu-CUxdo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScHkmya_egA

[chris vickery]

Got one of my two going this morning as well. Just a bit of fresh fuel and that was about it. The other, no spark so I think the mag need a cleaning.

[Jordan Baker]

Chris would it be possible for you to take some pictures of the wiring behind the control panel? Ive had to replace a few wires due to insulation falling apart. I think I have it all hooked up properly but Im not too sure.

[chris vickery]

Jordan
I will try to get you some pics later today or tomorrow.
May I add that mine actually charges😛

[Neil Ashley]

Originally Posted by Ron Pier

Hi Brian. The brass plate has serial number G12775 and a logo with LSE. Maybe they did a refurb to the motor at some time? Ron

From memory I sold you that but with the knowledge we now have it is clearly a Canadian Engine with British Electrics. Quite when it happened is anyone's guess but now we know that there was British late war production it could still be a war-time rebuild.

[Ron Pier]

I probably did buy it from you Neil (memory!). I'm happy to have a mixture of British/Canadian.....As is my carrier. Ron

[Jordan Baker]

Well I have managed to get some power coming from the chorehorse. However I have discovered that my relay switch does not work and I can't seem to change the output with the rheostat. However I do have a severe lack of electrical knowledge and don't really know what im doing. So it might simply be me.

I was also shown as rather nice NOS oil bath air cleaner from a chorehorse. I found it interesting that the decal was masked off and then the SCC2 was sprayed. However you can still make out the original satin black finish along the edges.

For those interested, the small engine crowd has created a demand for the decals and they can be bought online. They are the same decal as used on the Universal Carrier oil bath engine crankcase breather.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/151763443409...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[Bruce MacMillan]

Originally Posted by Jordan Baker

Well I have managed to get some power coming from the chorehorse.

The generator puts out DC voltage. I noticed your meter is set to AC voltage.
What is the DC value?

[Jordan Baker]

Thanks Bruce. I truly have no idea how to work those multi meters. I'll try it on the DC setting tomorrow.

[Jordan Baker]

Tried the meter on the DC settings and below is what I got. When I tried moving the output control back and forth nothing on the meter changed. Is it supposed to? So potentially both my output control and cutout switch do not function.

[Jordan Baker]

Here are some pictures of the CH1-395-4 Canadian Pattern Chorehorse. This was mounted on the 8cwt at the War Museum in Ottawa. I believe the only difference between this one and the CH1-395-5 British Pattern is the weather shield vs the frame guard and base.

[Lynn Eades]

Jordan, maybe you need to hook it up to a battery, and then test it?

[Jordan Baker]

Does anyone know where I can get a new cutout switch? On the bottom of mine is the number 10185. I've tried numerous internet searches with no luck.

[hrpearce]

[QUOTE=Robert Bergeron;218938]Jordan .

You have 18 volts DC on your meter.

The multimeter is set on the 10 volt range, I read it as 1.8 volts.

[Jordan Baker]

Yes it is only producing a couple volts. I did find a fault with the cutout relay swith. The shut grounding wire was broken. I also found one insulator that was burned. I think this happened when someone soldiered in a toggle swith. So since I have been unable to locate a replacement switch I took this one apart and fixed it. The other issue still remains that there is very little voltage being produced. One of the guys in my town is a generator repair guy for CAT. He has been working through it with me as we check each component when he has the time. Our next step is to check the windings for any shorts. He has a special tester for this. I will update once we have done this check.

[Jordan Baker]

A few weeks ago at the last OMVA show I picked up a couple more of the Chorehorse generators.

Well after one weeks worth of work I've got one restored and rebuilt to running condition. I still need to work out the generator as I believe the ammeter is shot.

This one will be made into the CH1-395-4 Cnd model with the weather shield on it. My plan is to use this one on the step of my Wire-3 truck.

Here is what I started with.

[Jordan Baker]

Then today I finished putting it together and installed it omits fuel tank. I used my car battery with some jumper cables to get it spinning and it started up alright. After some adjustments to the carb it seems to be running rather well.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aUhdJDGp4HI

[charlie fitton]

Originally Posted by Jordan Baker

Here are some pictures of the CH1-395-4 Canadian Pattern Chorehorse. This was mounted on the 8cwt at the War Museum in Ottawa. I believe the only difference between this one and the CH1-395-5 British Pattern is the weather shield vs the frame guard and base.

I just noticed the longer choke cable in this one as well

[Jordan Baker]

So I think I found the problem about why this second Chorehorse wasn't charging. The ammeter burned up inside. I managed to take it apart last night and sure enough the brass piece had broken and burned up. I was toying with the idea of soldering it back together. However I figured these ammeters had to have been used in another application and that OMC/Johnson simply bought an off the shelf item.

I checked out tractor ones, some were close but nothing was exact. Then on a google search I stumbled onto one that looked the same and was marked for a Ford. Some more digging and these are available new made for the Model T and Model A market for $7 USD from Mac's Antique Auto

[Bob Brown]

I just got a 300 watt MKI ZB/CAN 1686 CHI-395-6 1598. Military with Canadian leaf decal on it.

First, does anyone know where I can find a manual for it?

I'm missing the end cowl and looking for it. The start button is missing. The data plate says it is a 12 volt gen set but stamped on the bottom by the connectors it's stamped 6 volts to 30 volts.

Any help or direction would be great.

Thanks Guys Bob Brown

[Jordan Baker]

Started making a reproduction weather shield cover for my Cnd chorehorse.

[Mike Kelly]

You can print your own decals these days , its easy. My NOS chorehorse has a Maple Leaf decal on it .

http://www.tuberadio.com/robinson/Mackay/Decals.html

[Bruce Parker]

Originally Posted by Mike Kelly

You can print your own decals these days , its easy. My NOS chorehorse has a Maple Leaf decal on it .

http://www.tuberadio.com/robinson/Mackay/Decals.html

I tried to find the 'waterslide decal paper' and nobody here was able to point me in the right direction. Ah, maybe it's google time...(and hope they don't sell it only by the case).

[cletrac (RIP)]

How about this?

[Bruce Parker]

Originally Posted by cletrac

How about this?

...That'll do

[Grant Bowker]

Back in 2015, Brian and I were looking at whether the PU-5008/U and wartime chorehorse could be converted between 12 and 24 volts (and the other way around) and what changes needed to be made to do a conversion. At that time noone seemed to have an answer and I'm wondering if in the last few years anyone has found an answer.

[Bruce Parker]

Originally Posted by Grant Bowker

Back in 2015, Brian and I were looking at whether the PU-5008/U and wartime chorehorse could be converted between 12 and 24 volts (and the other way around) and what changes needed to be made to do a conversion. At that time noone seemed to have an answer and I'm wondering if in the last few years anyone has found an answer.

One solution would be that if you have a WW2 era 12 volt one and need my PU-5008 post war 24 volt rework we could trade. It must be possible as all the post war 24 volt ones are re-purposed 12 volt ones. I think it has to be where you position the brush on the armature.