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Rubber Rests. Wooden Rests. Mk1 and Mk1*
We need a place to store details about the various rests and how they are fitted.
Firstly, the rests were steel backed rubber and came in 2 heights.(high and low, or tall and short?) Later they were made of wood (which rubber ones apply to which carriers and when did the wooden ones come into vogue?) The next issue is, are the steel angle irons they are fitted to, are they on the inside or the outside? It appears the Mortar carriers had the side mounted ones on the outside while the U.C. had them on the inside. (and the U.C. rear ones are on the outside) This would require two different angle irons for the long side one because it is a different length from the mount hole to the end (at each end) Following on from this, I have picked up on a detail from facebook that the mounting screws are fitted from the bottom up. This I agree with, with regards the ones over the division plate (because my angle iron is countersunk from the bottom)) The evidence that I have for the rest of them, is that a round head machine screw and flat washer are fitted from the top down, with a spring washer and nut on the underside. Are the side and rear angle irons bolted to the hull plates? (or are they riveted?) I assume they were bolted? If we can get some solid info added here it will help those following on.
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Good thought Lynn.
If I may quote a portion of your post and explain an observation: Quote:
Kits were also provided to convert existing C01UC MK-I* carriers to 3” mortar. Photographs of such converted carriers may cause discussion as some of the eight (8) original firing rests could have been retained or modified. An example could be the gunner loophole rest, which was produced in early and late heights of rubber material only. The C21UCM 3” mortar carrier was eventually identified as a model UC2 on the data plate, particularly in contract CDLV 1555. (roughly October 1942 through July, 1943). Are we limiting the discussion to rubber/wood as found on factory production MK-I/MK-I* models? IE not the update program to MK-II standard where firing rests were replaced with rolled steel. If members want to discuss the updated MK-I/MK-I* to MK-II, C21UCG, C31UCW, T16 and Windsor could that be a separate thread? . |
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I would keep the discussion about the firing rests in one thread. If needed, I can always split up in separate threads later.
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If I may - I was always thinking that mortar and AOP carriers were not using firing rests at all, no matter of the Mark.
Obviously not true - please see attached picture of british made Mk.1 3inch mortar. I believe this is the variant Lynn is talking about - firing rests mounted outside. However what I still think is that Mk.II variants of mortar carriers and Mk.III AOP carriers have no firing rests - rolled steel (I mean british made at least but possibly also *).
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3" Mortar Carrier
I bekieve this pic is of the prototype for the 3" Mortar Carrier Mk I.
It is a converted Universal Mark 1 with many UC parts still fitted such as the firing rests. The T number may confirm this. Rob |
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