Canadian Intelligence Corps

[Robert Jan Leerink]

I am searching for one extra Canadian Intelligence Corps shouldertitle. I already have this one .

[sapper740]

Originally posted by Robert Jan Leerink
I am searching for one extra Canadian Intelligence Corps shouldertitle. I already have this one .

I'll email some of my buddies in Canada and ask them to keep an eye out for another patch. I think they might be somewhat rare, I've collected a lot of Canadian patches and haven't seen one of those before.

[Robert Jan Leerink]

I think it's a repro. I bought it in the Netherlands a few years
ago. The price was fair about 7.50 USD. I’ve attached the backside.

Do you know where I can find WW2 footage of CIC in action.
Probably an interesting case for an reenactment display.

[sapper740]

Originally posted by Robert Jan Leerink
I think it's a repro. I bought it in the Netherlands a few years
ago. The price was fair about 7.50 USD. I’ve attached the backside.

Do you know where I can find WW2 footage of CIC in action.
Probably an interesting case for an reenactment display.

Do a search for CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation), they might have some archival footage. Canadian Military Intelligence has a unit in Kingston, Ontario. You might try a search there also.

[Jon Skagfeld]

In Toronto, there used to be 2 Int Coy, based at College Street where C Pro C were also based.

[Bill Alexander]

Hello The title you are seeking is not scarce, I would suggest contacting a reputable dealer in Canada, such as Marway or Frank Corring. (Check the internet, both have web pages.) The title that you illustrated is authentic. There was no reason to repro these as they are easliy obtainable. The pattern did not change over their issue from the 1940's until the unification of Canadian forces in the 1960's.
In reference to seeing the C Int C (Canadian Intelligence Corps CIC= Canadian Infantry Corps), in action, I am not sure how successful you will be. The C Int C were more cerebral than a fighting force. They compiled, sorted and analized information, as well as gathered it. As such they spent a lot of time reading, interviewing interrogating prisoners and then drawing conclusions from the gen. They were usually detachments or seconded to other units/formations.

[Robert Jan Leerink]

Thanks !
C Int C is the right keyword for Google. I found this

When Canada mobilized in September 1939, Intelligence structures based on British organizations were rapidly developed and intelligence analysts were given new challenges.

As of 16 December 1940, there were about 60 all ranks posted to Canadian Intelligence duties. Foreseeing the need for 200 intelligence personnel, Major John Page proposed that Field Security (FS) functions be separated from the Provost Corps. Moreover, he worked to have an Intelligence Corps, formed in a manner similar to that of the British Intelligence Corps formed on 25 June 1940, recognized.

Establishment of First Canadian Army in April 1942 led to a tremendous demand for Intelligence specialists, and on 29 October 1942 the C Int C was officially recognized as a Corps. Canadians from universities, colleges, businesses and industries joined the C Int C to participate in a great variety of Intelligence duties; a number became casualties at Dieppe, in Northwest Europe and the Adriatic. Army Intelligence sections or staffs were represented at Army, Corps, Division, and District levels, with seven Field Security Sections in existence as well. By 1943, for the first time in Canadian history, Canadian personnel filled all Intelligence appointments within Canada’s Army formations and units.

Canadian Military HQ (CMHQ) Intelligence Section. The Intelligence Section at CMHQ was probably the most important link in the entire intelligence chain during the Second World War. Located in London, England, where the highest Allied planning and control took place, CMHQ was ideally situated to act as a listening post both for the Department in Ottawa and for the Canadian Army Overseas. The CMHQ Intelligence Section initially controlled cipher protection of Army messages between Ottawa and London, and was the agency responsible for security liaison between Canada and Canadian formations in England. It was directly involved in censorship, and later had charge of all aspects of recruiting for the intelligence establishments it helped form. It was also responsible for the training and professional development of all Canadian intelligence personnel, as well as handling of enemy prisoners of war.

As Canadian units moved overseas, personnel who appeared suitable for intelligence duties were sent to British Intelligence Schools. Handling of cipher messages was one of the first priorities, and the initial Canadian personnel to be trained came from First Canadian Division, which had arrived in England in December 1940. RCAF Air Intelligence Liaison officers, who would work closely with Army formation Intelligence staffs, were assigned to I Canadian Corps HQ.
Tactical and Operational Intelligence

Methods of exploiting information for Intelligence purposes at the tactical level were further refined from those used in the First World War. Artillery Intelligence and Engineer Intelligence methods were developed. Counter-Intelligence (CI) operations were particularly important during the Northwest Europe campaign. As in the First World War, proper exploitation of PWs and captured enemy documents/equipment was vital. New sources of combat intelligence at Corps, Division and Brigade levels included civilians from liberated or captured areas, enemy communications, and strategic level analysts conducting various types of research. The efforts of military intelligence analysts were instrumental in providing force protection and mission success in numerous operations and battles.
Casualties

C Int C took is first casualties of the War when Second Canadian Division was committed to its first major combat action, at Dieppe on 19 August 1942. Captain TM Insinger was killed when his landing craft tank (LCT) was blown up, and Captain F. Morgan was killed shortly after he came ashore. In the Field Security group, Company Sergeant-Major J.S. Milne, Sergeant J. Holt and Sergeant W. Corson were killed and five others captured. In the Mediterranean theatre, Corporal A.D. Yaritch was killed while on duty in the Adriatic. In North West Europe, Sergeant G.A. Osipoff and Sergeant F. Dummer were killed during operations in France.

[Mark W. Tonner]

Hi Robert;

Some info regarding the Canadian Intelligence Corps:

Part "B", General Order Number 470/1942, Dated: 3rd December, 1942.

G.O. 470/42 - ORGANIZATION - CANADIAN INTELLIGENCE CORPS

1. Pursuant to Section 20 of the Militia Act, His Excellency the Governor General in Council names as
a Corps of the Active Militia and under the provisions of Section 64 of the Militia Act, places on Active Service as an Active Unit of the Canadian Army the following:

"CANADIAN INTELLIGENCE CORPS"

2. The Canadian Infantry Corps shall be constituted as follows:

(a) Personnel of such active units as may from time to time be allocated thereto, namely:

formations down to and including

(i) Intelligence Sections of field formations down to and including divisions
(ii) Field Security Sections
(iii) Security Intelligence Sections
(iv) Miscellaneous units organized for and engaged in intelligence and wireless intelligence duties.

(b) Such personnel as may from time to time be posted thereto, namely those engaged in intelligence duties at National Defence Headquarters, Canadian Military Headquarters in Great Britain, Coastal Commands and Districts, except those holding General Staff Appointments.

3. All personnel comprising the Canadian Intelligence Corps shall be placed on a General List and shall be posted and reposted within the Corps as the exigencies of the service may require.

Effective 29th October, 1942
H.Q.S. 20-4Q
H.Q.S. 20-1Q
P.C. 36/10672 of 23-11-42

Part "B", General Order Number 105/1943, Dated: 6th March, 1943.

G.O. 105/43 - CANADIAN INTELLIGENCE CORPS - ALLOCATION OF UNITS

Pursuant to the provisions of General Order 470 of 1942, the Minister of National Defence hereby allocates the undermentioned Active Units to the Canadian Intelligence Corps:

Army Field Security Section
No. 1 Canadian Field Security Section
No. 2 Canadian Field Security Section
No. 3 Canadian Field Security Section
No. 4 Canadian Field Security Section
No. 5 Canadian Field Security Section
No. 6 Canadian Field Security Section
No. 7 Canadian Field Security Section
No. 8 Canadian Field Security Section
No. 11 Canadian Field Security Section
No. 12 Canadian Field Security Section
1st Canadian Divisional Intelligence Section
2nd Canadian Divisional Intelligence Section
3rd Canadian Divisional Intelligence Section
4th Canadian Divisional Intelligence Section
5th Canadian Divisional Intelligence Section
6th Canadian Divisional Intelligence Section
7th Canadian Divisional Intelligence Section
8th Canadian Divisional Intelligence Section
Corps Section - Intelligence Corps
Army Intelligence Section
Pacific Command Security Intelligence Section
Atlantic Command Security Intelligence Section
No. 1 Canadian Wireless Intelligence Section
No. 2 Canadian Wireless Intelligence Section
Military District No. 2 Security Intelligence Section
Military District No. 3 Security Intelligence Section
No. 1 Discrimination Unit

Effective 29th October, 1942
H.Q.S. 20-4Q
M.N.D.

Cheers