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Over on "the other site", Mark Arnott asked me: "What was the original tyre manufacturer for CMPs?"
I know of one brand at least - see my pictures of a wartime Firestone Cross Country Ground Grip 9.25-16 tyre on a C8A HUP. Who can add to this subject? P1010344.JPG P1010342.JPG P1010343.jpg P1010341.jpg
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Back in 2002, on my web page on 9.00-16 tyres I wrote (this was originally posted on the old forum which no longer exists):
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Hanno,
I think the obvious answer is that there is no such thing as "the original" tyre manufacturer for CMP's. Both Chevrolet and Ford factory pictures show a varierty of tyre threads and brands. The Good year (Chevron thread, Sure grip) and Firestone ground grip seem plentiful, but you also see the Dunlop Track grip tyres, and also road and sand tyres made by Dunlop, Firestone, Good year and India. Even when looking at rows of finished vehicles at the Ford and Chev plant, you'll note a variety of tyres in a line of the same type of CMP. Alex
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I agree that there wasn't a single "original" tire manufacturer for CMPs.
In comparing actual properties (as opposed to nominal sizes) the AEDB record mentions Goodrich, Gutta Percha, Seiberling, Dominion, Dunlop, Goodyear and Firestone as manufacturers. Runflats seem to have been mostly made by Goodyear in the common CMP sizes with a few in "odd" sizes by Firestone and Dunlop". Most sizes of regular pneumatic tires, both cross country and highway tread patterns, had multiple manufacturers. |
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As happens today, as well, there were working relationships between auto makers and tire companies.
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For reference, An old Dominion Royal 'Trak Master' off my C15. Not so easy to read, so here goes:
Photo 1 DOMINION ROYAL DOMINION RUBBER COMPANY MADE IN CANADA DOMINION ROYAL TRAK MASTER 1.jpg Photo 2 FOR BRITISH WHEELS 9.00 - 16 10 PLY-PLUS 2 SHOCK PADS RAYON DOMINION ROYAL TRAK MASTER 2.jpg The third photo shows the tread pattern....**NOTE** as per the below replies, it is believed that this tyre has been retreaded. So the pattern is likely not original. Owen. DOMINION ROYAL TRAK MASTER 3.jpg
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I hope this thread will help to catalogue at least a number of them.
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207313611_1720981658095848_2653108734056775691_n.jpg From a short internet search I learned that the Michelin Tyre Company Limited in London was incorporated in 1905 and that they were making a contribution to the Allied war effort, as they say: Quote:
Michelin UK 4.jpg Interestingly, the same tyre pattern was used for post-war production of 9.00-16 tyres, some of which were recently spotted on Dodge D15 trucks. If I recall correctly, they are 1970s dated and manufactured by Michelin in France: 130115740_1344661359204909_1336199502737631650_n.jpg 204253108_1481699028834474_2177669072603869049_n.jpg 6D09715B-AA90-4822-AC2A-F8B6E4CBB627.jpeg
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Dunlop Track Grip 1050x20 12 Ply dated 1945 Made in Canada
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Mariano Paz Buenos Aires, ARGENTINA 1944 Ariel W/NG 1945 FGT FAT Last edited by m606paz; 21-11-21 at 15:16. |
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More pics and inscriptions details
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Two 15-cwt rims I picked up recently have American made “Kant Slip” 9.00-16 W /|\ D tyres FOR BRITISH WHEELS made by Kelly Springfield Tyre Co. on them.
They are a proper NDMS bar grip, and not a retread. I have not been able to find a date on them. The American Kelly-Springfield Tire Company was founded in 1894. It was acquired in 1935 by the Goodyear Tire and Rubber Company, who maintained it as a subsidiary until 1999 when it was integrated into Goodyear North America. It continues today as a major brand under Goodyear. So they could have been made anytime during the past. Could it be the US supplied tyres for British wheels under Lend-Lease? Or would the US supply European MDAP recipients after WW2 with tyres made for their ex-Canadian equipment? 1D1AED36-0F82-4AD8-8D12-0349BFD2FBED.jpeg 9BCA8E2B-B02B-49D6-99D6-B87197289D10.jpeg 9C187591-DB90-47C7-A666-C6B949DD44C4.jpeg IMG_3828.jpg
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I had those Kelly tyres taken off the rims and they yielded some nice flaps marked “Goodyear | Made In Canada | for 16” rim” and tubes marked “NCD | W/|\D | Goodyear Made in Canada | 9.00-16 Heavy Duty | Do Not Use in RF Casings”.
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Sieberling Special Service 10.50 x 20
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This is still on my limber that i have just bought.
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Firestone CC Ground Grip
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