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Old 15-03-17, 01:44
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I have had a couple of requests for the above, unfortunately Kevin's two are the only pair I have surplus to my requirements.

The purest' are gonna puke but.....
What I do have are a few of the Kiwi made equivalents.

Like the Aussies 'we' made alot our own kit being at the end of a long supply chain.
The British may have even supplied some of the machining.

As you can see in the images the Kiwi plugs sit in the Brit reel fine they also plug into one another allowing daisy-chaining.

The Brit plug has a raised letting for the nomenclature and the Kiwi one is sunken.
I'm thinking some filler and a touch-up, voila!

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Old 15-03-17, 02:55
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If you put the prongs in the right holes, the Connectors No 1 will plug into the Connectors No 3. The guts are identical and the housing is different.
That's a No 1 off my remote unit on the bottom.
My NOS remote unit came from New Zealand . It has PMGs W/S SYD stenciled of the front of the case.
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Old 15-03-17, 07:47
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Hi Brent. I'd be more that happy with a pair of NZ plugs. My 11 set is Ozzy anyway. Maybe double up with Kevin re post? I sent a PM with my email address but can't see it as 'sent' anywhere? Regards Ron
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Old 20-03-17, 04:33
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The complete station for use in a vehicle requires three different power supply cables. I have the one that goes to the charging switchboard in the first pic.
The next two pics show the one used with the two 6 volt batteries on a ground station. The fourth pic is one I got off ebay that I'm going to convert to one of those ground station cables. I have another plug for the power supply unit to replace the one on the cable. Does anyone have any Niphon plugs for the batteries that would work with this cable?
The third setup is for the ground station when used with the dry cells. I don't have any pics of this setup so I don't know what I need.
The 1A2 setup uses 4 batteries so I need 6 of the male Niphon plugs and four of the matching female plugs.
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1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box
1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP
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1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor
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Old 20-03-17, 09:39
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Did Canada manufacture the Niphan plugs? If so then be careful because they might not match the British connectors , eg the pin spacing on the Aust. made niphan plugs is different .

I have two of the British male Niphan plugs , salvaged from one of the artillery speaker system units. I checked the plugs in my British 6V batteries ( the drawings I did ) and the plugs fitted perfectly .

You may have to think about remanufacture , being a hobby machinist myself, making those plugs its not as easy as it looks

A group buy would be a better deal. A CNC machine could spit them out , but if made in brass like the originals the cost would be ridiculous .
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Old 20-03-17, 09:45
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The fourth pic is one I got off ebay that I'm going to convert to one of those ground station cables. .
At least you have an original plug to copy but does it fit the British/Canadian battery connectors OK ? BTW are the Canadian batteries , used in the 1A2 bodies , the same pattern/dimensions as the British batteries ?
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Old 21-03-17, 06:45
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Mike, the Canadians likely used the British plugs. They didn't really get into radio stuff until 1941 or 1942.
I took some screenshots from that Erecting the 11 Set video showing the dry cell battery setup. That connector plug no 6 is from the Brit manual.
The soldier on the left has the H T unit and on the right has the L T unit.
It looks like the connector has a switch built in. Both battery units use Niphan plugs as well. That makes 8 male Niphan plugs and 6 female ones on one complete vehicle setup.
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1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box
1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP
1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box
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Old 23-03-17, 06:36
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Here's the only other 11 set pictures I have that show those dry cell batteries. They must have quit using them fairly early in the war.
The H T accumulator looks to be about 14" square and about 3 to 4 inches thick.
Chris, could you post a picture of that partial case you mentioned in an earlier post?
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1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun
1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends
1941 Cab 12 F15A
1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box
1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP
1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box
1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor
MkII Bren gun carrier chassis x 2

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Old 25-03-17, 03:34
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I got these cables and ends off ebay. The 6 Niphan connectors are all the same size so I guess they're the right ones. I have a couple more coming from the same UK seller. I got them for a reasonable price but now somebody else thinks they're valuable and is bidding over $100 for a cable with two Niphans on it. If anybody needs some I'll send you his email address. He said he has around 75 Niphan connectors but no females to match the ones I bought.
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1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun
1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends
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1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box
1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP
1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box
1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor
MkII Bren gun carrier chassis x 2
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Old 25-03-17, 05:59
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I got these cables and ends off ebay. The 6 Niphan connectors are all the same size so I guess they're the right ones. I have a couple more coming from the same UK seller. I got them for a reasonable price but now somebody else thinks they're valuable and is bidding over $100 for a cable with two Niphans on it. If anybody needs some I'll send you his email address. He said he has around 75 Niphan connectors but no females to match the ones I bought.
Those are a nice find
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Old 25-03-17, 13:49
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I got these cables and ends off ebay. The 6 Niphan connectors are all the same size so I guess they're the right ones. I have a couple more coming from the same UK seller. I got them for a reasonable price but now somebody else thinks they're valuable and is bidding over $100 for a cable with two Niphans on it. If anybody needs some I'll send you his email address. He said he has around 75 Niphan connectors but no females to match the ones I bought.
Most of the 2-pin Niphan connectors will be for batteries (there were other uses such as aerial feeders for the WS12 with different pin arrangements, but they are very rare, also some from the next size up used for AC power, I think).

The Niphan to ring terminal cables are general purpose, I think the very long one has a 'line' stores code and was used with the F&F switchboard. Niphan to 2-pin bakelite socket was for WS22, R109, PCR receivers, etc., and the twin plugs to Pye 6-pin socket is (of course) for the WS19.

Niphan sockets are going to be difficult to obtain: they were used on batteries and when the battery was scrapped the socket had to be removed in order to get the cells out, and if not reused would be melted down for the brass content. You need to look for old batteries with 2-pin sockets - they will all use the same connector. (6V 16, 40 or 85 Ah, 12V 22 and 75 Ah units.)

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I took one of the Niphan plugs apart to see how they're made. The female one is a bigger size but the construction will be the same. The female one would be reasonably easy to make on a lathe but the male part is a bit more complex. If I had a lathe I'd give it a go, but no lathe. The insulating part could be nylon or the like. I could scavenge the brass wire holders out of the larger plugs that I have.
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1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box
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