English 3" Mortar Carrier

[RichardT10829]

Originally Posted by wayne lane

New find Marmon-Herrington far north NSW now recoverd and home runing and driving to many projects could be open to expresions of interest

interested in the Mk1 carrier in the garage on pic 2

great find on the Herrington though buddy.

[wayne lane]

Yeah Richard the carrier in the shed is my project at the moment was driving till just recent now pretty much just striping down for a rebuild can't find no body numbers but some feed back i've had seems like it's a English 3inch Mortar Carrier
Thankyou for your interest Wayne Lane

[Lynn Eades]

How about some photos of her, inside and out. Show me the engine bed rails, and the rear panel( above where the diff bolts on, the top)

Between Richard and I, we'll hijack your thread.

[wayne lane]

Lynn attached are the rail photos, if you have an idea about numbers being here im doubtful myself. I have checked at the back of the front gunners plate and above the drivers vision hole with no luck. does have painted number outside front drivers side.

[chrisgrove]

Hi guys

If T58362 is accurately the number of the thing, it was indeed a Universal Carrier 3 inch Mortar Mk 1 manufactured by Sentinel Wagon under contract T2035 (info courtesy of Nigel Watson's Universal Carrier Vol2).

Chris

[Lynn Eades]

I posted, and then I lost my internet, meanwhile Chris pipped me at the post. I was not aware that you had the "T" number.
You wont find any stamped numbers on the hull, because the Brits didnt do it. She is definitely a Brit carrier,because the bed rails are made from channel steel with a square outer corner, the Canadian ones are a rolled section.
From Nigel's book (Vol 1 in fact) that contract was for a batch of 360 Mortar carriers. I have no doubt about the "T" number (T58362) being correct. There are other carriers in Australia from the same batch, if my memory serves me correctly.
You have a lot of original bits in there, and she should come up well. Keep posting. You will find some good help here.


Maybe Geoff or Hanno can separate this off as a carrier thread

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Lynn Eades

Maybe Geoff or Hanno can separate this off as a carrier thread

Sure, I am happy to move you spoilsports over to the carrier section

H.

[Lynn Eades]

Hi wayne, I have pulled a picture fron Alex Van wetering's Overloon Conger thread, which shows the mortar carrier rear panel with the universals many holes blanked off with short rivets. (factory done) If you look at Brian Johns thread you can see the two battery cable holes are also factory blanked

[kevin powles]

Hi Wayne, You dont hppen to have with that mortar carrier details or the remains of any rear mounting brackets which stowed the 3" mortar in place on the rear deck?.

nice carrier, kevin.

[andrew honychurch]

if it is indeed a Sentinel made Carrier my father was emplyed making these at the factory at Shrewsbury. He recalls many details about them, so if anyone has any particular question by all means try me and i will ask him. One thing he vividly recalls is the tarmac outside the factory gate. The test drivers used to spin left out of the factory on Harlescott Road and run about 7 miles up to Haughmond Hill and back. The road was completely scuffed up from that first fast left up the road! Every time he sees a Carrier he always looks to see whether it was a Sentinel or not.

[Lynn Eades]

I would like to know exactly how the riveting was done to get such perfect rivets. I believe the riveter had a gyroscope feature, that stopped them moving sideways. I would love to see specific tooling details, because many rivets are in awkward places.

[motto]

You'd probably be surprised at how primitive the gear was that was used to set the rivets Lynn. It would all be down to the skill of the workmen. Remember that they would be doing them by the thousand and if they muffed it they would be in for a right bawling out.
David

[andrew honychurch]

I will speak to him and ask a bit about the riveting and report back.

[Lynn Eades]

It will be great to hear what he has to say. Thanks in advance.